Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 Namaste All, On the K-list, as most of you probably noticed, there was an attack on Sai Baba. He neither needs any praise or defence. The usual claims that he molests little boys etc. How the President and Prime Minister of India haven't noticed this I don't know! Anyway I personally know the 'high profile' individuals, who are travelling around doing this, Sweden, New York, Europe, Australia etc. There are complicated reasons why they are doing this and I can't mention them here. After the battle of Lanka and the defeat of Ravana, one of Rama's generals came up and stated how happy he had been to serve. Rama replied 'yes, but in your next life you will be my enemy.' This is the concept of miracle-game or 'Leela'. One has to bear in mind 'all is one', even in this appearance upon The Self. It is the The Lord who plays both the friend and foe, demon and saint, for whatever reason, inexplicable to our minds. Sometimes more can be done by a foe rather than a friend. Hatred, at least, is not indifference. In the end result it is what one learns from the Guru, that is important. As Swami says." Don't be a devotee of My Form, but of My Teachings". Love and Sai Ram, Tony. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/ (glossary incl?) Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham! "God is formless. In order to merge in the formless God, you have to give up identification with the body." "There is only one 'Soul' and 'That' is God." Sai Baba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 1999 Report Share Posted November 19, 1999 On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 17:49:25 -0800 (PST) Tony O'Clery <aoclery writes: > Tony O'Clery <aoclery > > > Namaste All, > > On the K-list, as most of you probably noticed, there > was an attack on Sai Baba. He neither needs any > praise or defence. The usual claims that he molests > little boys etc. How the President and Prime Minister > of India haven't noticed this I don't know! With all due respect, Tony, there is no limit on what goes unnoticed by politicians, Indian or otherwise. Whatever else Sathya Sai Baba may be, he is an economic magnet for his region -- and that attracts political support like a corpse draws buzzards. The moment elected officals become credible arbiters of spiritual authenticity we are in very deep yogurt indeed. > > Anyway I personally know the 'high profile' > individuals, who are travelling around doing this, > Sweden, New York, Europe, Australia etc. There are > complicated reasons why they are doing this and I > can't mention them here. Sathya Sai Baba was highly controversial before any "high profile" folks took up the allegations against him. He has a rather extensive organization -- to be fair, he also has been praised for equally extensive philanthropies -- and there are some troubling indications that some of his minions aren't nearly as high-minded as their guru's utterances. I have personally not taken a position on the matter, not having enough first- hand evidence either way. I feel it best to stay alert and open-minded -- but definitely not empty-headed. > > After the battle of Lanka and the defeat of Ravana, > one of Rama's generals came up and stated how happy he > had been to serve. Rama replied 'yes, but in your > next life you will be my enemy.' > > This is the concept of miracle-game or 'Leela'. One > has to bear in mind 'all is one', even in this > appearance upon The Self. It is the The Lord who > plays both the friend and foe, demon and saint, for > whatever reason, inexplicable to our minds. Sometimes > more can be done by a foe rather than a friend. > Hatred, at least, is not indifference. All this is well and good, Tony, but beyond the modern-day equivalents of lords and generals is the suffering of "low-profile" individuals attracted by the showy performances of some of the subcontinent's more flamboyant "God-man" personalities. There are some who would include Sathya Sai Baba among those who seem oblivious to the crushed hopes that sometimes come of an emphasis on highly publicized "miracle" demonstrations that tend to encourage the desperate in search of a "miracle." > > In the end result it is what one learns from the Guru, > that is important. As Swami says." Don't be a devotee > of My Form, but of My Teachings". That is very good advice, whether or not this particular guru lives up to it. > > Love and Sai Ram, Tony. Baba Nam Kevalam Much love -- Bruce > http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm _________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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