Nasir and prayer/mantra for the dead.

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Namaste All,

 

Nasir wrote:->I think this one is most important thing

to learn. What do you do when

someone die? i mean in detail, the words to use in

pray or may be you

have

a mantra to help them move on?

Thanks for sharing this.<

 

Tony's answer:

It depends on your cultural and religious background,

the contents of your sub-conscious mind. I have read

the Tibetan Book of the dead and various Bardo

literature and not much applied to the experiences I

am talking about, for non Tibetans.

 

Most knew about their own funerals, families etc,

others didn't want to bother with anything at all to

do with this plane. Which surprised me with some.

Others mentioned that prayer, any prayer had helped

them move on. Others were aided by spirits,

Devas/Angels if they wished. These can be invoked

also. Again it was all pretty subjective stuff. The

feeling in the Heart and the connection is more

important than a particular mantra I think. For it is

the sub-conscious that is the mind there really,

initially anyway!

 

So use any prayer/mantra that is comfortable to you

and even better if it is something they are familiar

with. I suppose I am talking about 'Love'. After the

'second death', they end up where they are supposed to

be, in most cases. Although again Devas, God-Forms,

can help with respect to this as well. Some will be on

the 'form'planes or heavens others will be on

'light'planes it all depends on their level of

awareness at death. It is all in the universal mind.

It seemed to me that prayer was effective and

necessary at the initial Bardo level before dropping

the vital double body. It takes some time to become

accustomed to their new situation and get over any

confusion, but if they have been taught some religion

or spirituality, they know they have to move on.

 

Others whose mind doesn't contain these images can be

unconscious, confused, or even not know they are dead,

it all to do with awareness and attachment. One fellow

I know keeps coming back, to his home, and turning on

the T.V. at a certain time to his favorite channel,

nearly everyday.

 

Love Tony.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 12/2/99 12:10:07 PM Mountain Standard Time,

aoclery writes:

 

<<

Nasir wrote:->I think this one is most important thing

to learn. What do you do when

someone die? i mean in detail, the words to use in

pray or may be you

have

a mantra to help them move on?

Thanks for sharing this.>

 

Several weeks before my mom died, my grandmother (dead many years) came to me

and said you've got to warn your mother because she has no spiritual beliefs

about any kind of afterlife and when she gets here it's going to freak the

--- out of her!

I was in a pickle about this for awhile because I didn't want to force my own

beliefs on my mother -- who had always respected mine. But finally I told

her what had happened and she was grateful, if not entirely believing. The

morning of her death it somehow felt right to read poetry to her, and as she

actually died I just held her and told her we loved her and that she could

let go and go to Love. Her death was profoundly peaceful and the room was

filled with GodPresence. Some time later I had 3 messages from her

confirming that she had found radiance and that she'd been aware of my words

at her death. I think Tony is right, it is the heart that matters more than

the particular spiritual practice. Holly