Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 In a message dated 12/03/1999 12:25:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, berkowd writes: << As there is no beginning or ending - this instant is all - undivided. There is nowhere to arrive, no one to do the arriving. Nothing to accomplish, nothing to be finished with. True simplicity. One pointed - edglessly infinite. Whenever we conceptualize, we use a metaphorical reference - (i.e., point, edgeless, spiral, circle) -- these are like a raft that is laid to rest when the shore is reached -- which is to say: there is no shore, and there is nothing to be reached. Love, Dan >> Thank you Dan :-) There's no evolution, no energy? No movement? Love, Annette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 1999 Report Share Posted December 3, 1999 Dan: Thanks for your comments, Rainbo, on "arriving" and "being finished with it". Your remarks might be encouragement to look at what it is that is beyond concepts of being completed or evolving. From this perspective, to be "finished" is to have ended the conceptualization of having begun. It is begun and finished in the same instant. To begin is to end. What is begun and finished is everything - some thus say, "nothing ever arose or departed" - others say, "there has never been other than 'this'". If its beginning is its ending, there never "was" a "was" -- never "was" a "beginning". As there is no beginning or ending - this instant is all - undivided. There is nowhere to arrive, no one to do the arriving. Nothing to accomplish, nothing to be finished with. True simplicity. One pointed - edglessly infinite. Whenever we conceptualize, we use a metaphorical reference - (i.e., point, edgeless, spiral, circle) -- these are like a raft that is laid to rest when the shore is reached -- which is to say: there is no shore, and there is nothing to be reached. Love, Dan >Rainbo/Annette: >Morning, I think there is no such thing as *no choice left* it is >an act of *Grace* if I have a mystic experience or some other >experience, dying for example, physical, or emotional/psychological/astral >or mental/intuitive/soul ... this is path of spiral ever upwards. In >other words, there is no "arrived" at state. I didn't win the race, >get the degree, finish the work, I think this is very Western, and >I think a Master would agree that they are ever-evolving. This >goes back to the discussion we have of "Where am I?" > >It would be like saying "physics is finished." Or, "art is finished." Some >brilliant Master has come along and he began and finished "it." And, >then just hangs about saying, "you see, I finished *it*" as though >anything is finally evolved to its complete end, such that creationism >is an ever evolving unit of love and light moving ever into itself >and back out again, like cosmic breathing, like the universe breathing >itself into and out of existence, with a source, a *one* unchanging >eternal wave of love riding underneath. > >So, when someone says "I'm there." "I finished." It seems to me >that perhaps this person, like a star has collapsed as a black hole >and is ready to explode back out creating the next act of creationism. >Such that love is an ever evolving source with ever yet more rays >to experience ever yet more love to share with others, like energy >spreading out like the ripples on the pond, the water moving around >the rocks so as to "do no harm" but like butter in cream not seperated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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