A Sandeep letter

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A letter by Sandeep:

 

In coming to such Cyber-based Forums do we not seek

something, if nothing do we not at least try to fend off the

utter and despairing loneliness?

 

One is tired with all the games played until now and now

there is a new toy, and hey this new toy allows me to "pose"

profound spiritual achievements because my face, my eyes

which are the windows to where I am really, they does not

get exposed.<S>

 

One goes from one to another, like window shopping, forever

craving something new, a new sensation, new experience which

will endure in spite of everything.(none did, hence the

seeking of the new "other')

 

We never see the futility of results but only of "a" result

and so we keep wandering hoping to get 'the" result which

will end all search.

 

Can one see that the search for result any result, is

binding, limiting that it is ever coming to an end.

 

Ergo a new search

How to be free?

And is not this desire to be free also a desire for a result

and thereby binding?

Seeking freedom is now the new chain binding us.

 

Let's see the problem clearly.

Is it a question of seeing the futility of one result and so

discarding the desire for all results?

If we perceive the uselessness of one escape, then can we

see the uselessness of all escapes?

 

Let's move a bit more deeper.

Is not experience also a result?

If we are to be free of all results, must we not be free

from experience?

For, is not experience an outcome, an end?

End of what?

End of experiencing.

Experience is the memory of experiencing.

When experiencing ends, there is the experience, the result.

While experiencing, there is no experience, only with the

fading of experiencing, is the accumulation of the

experience.

 

Results, experiences come to an end, but experiencing is

inexhaustible.

When the inexhaustible is hindered by memory, then the

search for results starts, "What to do" is born.

 

When the experiencer is not, the inexhaustible IS.

 

Dropping, seeing, transcending all identifications, is only

possible in freedom.

And freedom is only possible in aloneness.

 

"On your path, when you meet the Buddha, cut his head" said

the dude Buddha.

 

No human ego can do that alone.

 

In aloneness, ego is no more.

Ego is only present in relationship, in duality.

 

--Sandeep

 

http://www.nonduality.com/sandeep.htm

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A letter by Sandeep:

 

In coming to such Cyber-based Forums do we not seek

something, if nothing do we not at least try to fend off the

utter and despairing loneliness?

 

Rainbo: Perhaps we just seek to share the joy and love

we have found in unity ... in those who are also on

a spiritual path, perhaps in my day-to-day life, there

are a multitude of duties, responsibilities, dancing,

which i share with those who may not be interested in

enlightenment and so, this form fits in my schedule,

whereas gathering with like-minded people locally is

not easily achieved. The beginning of the letter

sent already red flags up, a projection of loneliness

by the author. On we go...

 

One is tired with all the games played until now and now

there is a new toy, and hey this new toy allows me to "pose"

profound spiritual achievements because my face, my eyes

which are the windows to where I am really, they does not

get exposed.<S>

 

Rainbo: What's to pose? Many here don't even use a real

name, so ego vs. humility isn't really an issue, one

can just come to the table with offerings, and if

one comes naked, ah, sigh, great or too bad, depending

on your perspective. *g*

 

S: One goes from one to another, like window shopping, forever

craving something new, a new sensation, new experience which

will endure in spite of everything.(none did, hence the

seeking of the new "other')

R: if that is your experience... then that is valid

for you..

We never see the futility of results but only of "a" result

and so we keep wandering hoping to get 'the" result which

will end all search.

 

R: Perhaps we have already many results and see

sharing as joyful, and we are enjoy-full-ness of

the journey... it's not like it ends when we die, eh?

 

S: Can one see that the search for result any result, is

binding, limiting that it is ever coming to an end.

 

Ergo a new search

How to be free?

And is not this desire to be free also a desire for a result

and thereby binding?

Seeking freedom is now the new chain binding us.

 

Let's see the problem clearly.

Is it a question of seeing the futility of one result and so

discarding the desire for all results?

If we perceive the uselessness of one escape, then can we

see the uselessness of all escapes?

 

R: Huge jump in conclusions, desire has a function.

 

Let's move a bit more deeper.

Is not experience also a result?

If we are to be free of all results, must we not be free

from experience?

For, is not experience an outcome, an end?

End of what?

End of experiencing.

Experience is the memory of experiencing.

When experiencing ends, there is the experience, the result.

While experiencing, there is no experience, only with the

fading of experiencing, is the accumulation of the

experience.

 

R: One feeling cold is experiencing cold.

One feeling heat is experiencing heat. I don't

have then the experience as a memory ... and if I am

living in now than the experience is something of

history, gone, not much attention to give to it. So,

Again conclusion based on erroneous assumption.

 

 

Sandeep: Results, experiences come to an end, but experiencing is

inexhaustible.

 

Rainbo: Is God experiencing the joy of himself

breathing the Cosmos?

My guess is yes.

 

Sandeep:

When the inexhaustible is hindered by memory, then the

search for results starts, "What to do" is born.

 

Sandeep: When the experiencer is not, the inexhaustible IS.

 

Rainbo: No, they are simultaneous.

 

Sandeep: Dropping, seeing, transcending all identifications, is only

possible in freedom.

And freedom is only possible in aloneness.

 

Rainbo: Only if you are tied to others definitions

and in ego that is concerned with questions as above:

"the game" and "the poser."

 

Sandeep:

"On your path, when you meet the Buddha, cut his head" said

the dude Buddha.

 

No human ego can do that alone.

 

In aloneness, ego is no more.

 

Rainbo: Ego can be no more surrounded by thousands,

I would bet Buddha, Jesus, Lao Tzu, all experienced

bliss in ALL surrounding Love even in the midst of

thousands.

 

Ego is only present in relationship, in duality.

 

--Sandeep

 

http://www.nonduality.com/sandeep.htm

 

So, a few thoughts,

~ just a rainbo ~

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Hi Jerry,

>A letter by Sandeep:

 

Thanks so much for this Christmas present!! I love Sandeep... he has been

a wonderful friend to me. And I'm always glad to see anything he wrote.

 

Love,

Dharma