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amirah (Yakov Leib haKohain (Lawrence G. Corey, Ph.D.))

 

--------------------

 

Dear Chaverim,

 

[NOTE: The previous ten lectures in this series can be found at the

Donmeh West Library, .]

 

"Matter is nothing but gravitationally trapped light." -- Jack Sarfatti,

Ph.D.

 

With the preceding introduction of this second scientific concept of

Homeostatic Systems, the Kabbalistic doctrine of Shevirit HaKelim ("The

Shattering of the Vessels"), as we have come to understand it though the

work of Isaac Luria, now can be explained and understood almost

completely as an archetypal content created in the vast collective

unconscious at the moment of the primordial Big Bang. The profound

numinousity of this archetype probably results from the unimaginable

psychic power it receives as a reflection of the Big Bang, and also from

its excessive antiquity. These two qualities -- unimaginable power and

antiquity beyond time, coupled with its nexus to creation -- inspire

those in whom it constellates a breathless awe and amazed reverence.

 

 

The Structure of Tikkun

 

To summarize, the preceding considerations suggest that the Shevirit

HaKelim is an archetypal event in the Collective Unconscious that

anticipates and mirrors the primordial data of Creation as they are

coming to be discovered and understood by the modern science of

astrophysics. What are mirrored in this archetype are cosmological

events of such antiquity and cataclysmic proportions that the mind is

unable either to envision or comprehend them fully. From a

psychospiritual perspective, this implies that the archetype of Shevirit

HaKelim (and the Tikkun which repairs it) is invested with a degree of

psychic energy almost equal to that of the Big Bang from which it and

the entire universe was created, and its excessive antiquity places it

at the very deepest layers of the Collective Psyche. This point is

illustrated by the following quotation from the physicist, Nigel

Henbest:

 

Within the first one-millinonth of a second after the Big Bang, matter

as we know it did not exist. There were no atoms, just sub-atomic

particles. And in this inferno of heat and pressure, there was

antimatter, too . . . Just after the Big Bang, radiation was so intense

that it created a whole jostling sea of particles and antiparticles

[i.e., the Nitzotzot, or Holy Sparks, similarly described in

Neo-Sabbatian cosmology]. There is every reason to expect equal amounts

of each. By the time the universe was a couple of seconds old, though,

all the quarks and anti-quarks [i.e., the Nitzotzot and their

Kelippotim, or "Evil Husks"] should have been annihilated, and all the

electrons and protons too . . . But if all the matter and antimatter

were were annihilated, the universe should be empty save for radiation.

There should be no matter left to make atoms, to constitute the gases

that could eventually turn into galaxies. But since there are stars.

there is matter in the present universe, so it is obvious that all the

matter was not wiped out . . . . There must have been an imbalance

between matter and antimatter [i.e., the Holy Sparks and their

entrapping Husks] in the first moments of the universe that left some

matter around after the great annihilation [i.e.,the Shevirit HaKelim].

(ibid, Sarfatti, Space, Time and Beyond)

 

What seems evident here is that the Shevirit HaKelim described by Luria,

and the Tikkun (or need for reconsolidation of its component matter) was

the psychic nexus of the cosmological "inferno of heat and pressure"

that accompanied the Big Bang. Another conclusion is that the "Holy

Sparks" resulting from the "Shattering of the Vessels" in Neo-Sabbatian

Kabbalah are the archetypal counterpart to the "jostling sea of

particles and antiparticles" said by Henbest to have occurred in the

"first one-millionth of a second" after the Big Bang.

 

[To be continued]

 

Raising up the Holy Sparks together,

 

Yakov Leib

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Hi,

 

Physics is really fairly simple common sense unless

buried in the equations, the overview is not complicated.

 

Einstein spent the remainder of his life looking for the

Grand Unified Field equation... or GUT Theory, but

the mystic experiences the GUT Theory. In his/her

vision the mystic

experience of love, the divine energy of love, as a

Christian would interpret it; or the mysticism of knowledge

amongst Buddhists, actualized awareness on an ultimate

nondual unitive level of mind, or the Advaita Vedanta,

where there is no transcendent other a purely immanent

approach.

 

In Qabalah, the vessel means chakras, which sheds alot

of light on the text quoted.

 

L*L*L

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Dear Bruce:

 

Thank you for your thoughts, on the e=mc2, it is simply that

matter is energy and energy is mass. How fast the mass

becomes energy depends on alot of variables, but we all know

that all atoms spin, nothing is constant, seeing the energy of

love is just that, seeing the energy which imbues everything and

that it is all one. The Dalai Lama wrote on the movement

of energy as this path:> Aether > Air > Fire > Water > Earth,

which is a traditionally occult understanding.

 

For those who may be interested there was an English Benedictine

monk, Bede Griffiths, who bridged the Benedictine and Indian traditions,

a great contemplative, he concerned himself with running Shantivanam,

the ashram founded by Monchanin and Abishiktananda (Le Saux, an

extraordinary French mystic who plunged into sannyasi) who bridged

both religions as well as science -- discoveries in quantum mechanics

and biology, Sheldrake's theory of morphogenic fields and discoveries

in transpersonal psychology -- "he transformed the old antagonism

between spirituality and science into a congenial relationship." Griffiths

wrote River of Compassion.

 

Extracted from The Mystic Heart by Wayne Teasdale, on this new

path of interspirituality.

 

A bit on Abhishiktananda from his Saccidananda:

 

Here there is no question of theologizing or of academic

comparison between the terms of the Christian revelation and

those in which India has expressed its own unique mystical

experience. It is rather a matter of an awakening, an awareness

far beyond the reach of intellect, and experience which springs

up and erupts in the deepest recesses of the soul. The

experience of Saccidananda carries the soul beyond all merely

intellectual knowledge to her very center, to the source of her

being. Only there is she able to hear the Word which reveals

within the undivided unity and advaita of Saccidananda, the

mystery of the Three divine Persons: in Sat, the Father,

the absolute Beginning and Source of being; in Cit, the Son,

the divine Word, the Father's Self-knowledge; in Ananda

the Spirit of love, Fullness and Bliss without end.

 

Mystic Heart: "Abshishiktananda was a rare hybrid mystic spanning

two traditions. His life of inner discovery cost him dearly, he suffered

terrible doubt, anguish and loneliness. As one of the first Christian

mystics to enter the realm of advaitic mysticism, he had no one to turn

to."

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In a message dated 12/29/1999 3:54:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,

RainboLily writes:

 

<< Abishiktananda (Le Saux, >>

Excuse me, unclear, Henri Le Saux was a Benedictine monk who later

became known as Abhishiktananda, or "the Bliss of the Annointed

One" while living in Southern India.

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This proposed correlation of

physics and scientific

cosmology to various nondual

and other sacred traditions

is pretty heady stuff, and

rather tough sledding for

those lacking a modicum of

scientific training. It is

also very controversial

among scientists, where it

might well be noted there is

quite a strong consensus

that folks like Dr. Jack

Sarfatti have gravely

misinterpreted and

misrepresented the science

involved. The NonDuality

Salon website has several

interesting links on related

topics under "Nonduality and

Physics" at the following URL:

 

http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/context.htm

 

As a non-scientist, I tend to

stay neutral on such matters,

but perhaps someone with the

requisite scientific education

and/or experience would like

to comment on this

fascinating confluence of

enquiry traditions.

 

On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:25:01 EST RainboLily writes:

> RainboLily

>

> amirah (Yakov Leib haKohain (Lawrence G.

> Corey, Ph.D.))

>

> --------------------

>

> Dear Chaverim,

>

> [NOTE: The previous ten lectures in this series can be found at the

> Donmeh West Library, .]

>

> "Matter is nothing but gravitationally trapped light." -- Jack

> Sarfatti,

> Ph.D.

>

[snip]

 

 

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At 11:33 AM 12/29/99 -0500, Bruce Morgen wrote:

>Bruce Morgen <editor

>It is

>also very controversial

>among scientists, where it

>might well be noted there is

>quite a strong consensus

>that folks like Dr. Jack

>Sarfatti have gravely

>misinterpreted and

>misrepresented the science

>involved. The NonDuality

>Salon website has several

>interesting links on related

>topics under "Nonduality and

>Physics" at the following URL:

>

>http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/context.htm

 

Bruce,

 

The Sarfatti controversy sounds interesting. Does the NDS site have info

on that?

 

--Greg

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In a message dated 12/29/1999 4:31:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

editor writes:

 

<<

Sorry, can't parse much

sense out of the above,

it seems loaded with

leaps of faith and very

imprecise implications

of equivalence. The

Dalai Lama reference

seems particularly out

of left field in the

context of Einstein.

> >>

Sorry, have done alot of thinking on this and thought that most

people interested in spirituality would have explored as well, I

believe the material quoted by Jerry from Raphael went into

this in depth on his list. Too long to get into here, and I do

jump, thinking most can follow here.

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Dear Greg,

 

I just took down the site, I'll put it back up later this evening or tomorrow

morning, it's a direct quote from the Dalai Lama, or I could send as

a jpg, i'm running out the door right now, let me know which you'd

prefer, doesn't matter to me ;-)

 

Annette

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:40:23 -0500 Greg Goode <goode writes:

> Greg Goode <goode

>

> At 11:33 AM 12/29/99 -0500, Bruce Morgen wrote:

> >Bruce Morgen <editor

> >It is

> >also very controversial

> >among scientists, where it

> >might well be noted there is

> >quite a strong consensus

> >that folks like Dr. Jack

> >Sarfatti have gravely

> >misinterpreted and

> >misrepresented the science

> >involved. The NonDuality

> >Salon website has several

> >interesting links on related

> >topics under "Nonduality and

> >Physics" at the following URL:

> >

> >http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/context.htm

>

> Bruce,

>

> The Sarfatti controversy sounds interesting. Does the NDS site have

> info on that?

>

No, although it does link

to Henry Stapp, who is

somehow related to it. I

only know about it because

of a spate of crossposting

onto alt.consciousness and

alt.meditation about two

years back. Perhaps the

best starting point is

Sarfatti's own site:

http://www.stardrive.org

-- the URL itself indicates

where Sarfatti sees all

this as leading to. Engage

-- warp factor *MU*!

 

When you return from your

expedition, perhaps you'll be

able to suggest some more

links to Jerry.

 

 

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At 12:11 PM 12/29/99 -0500, Bruce Morgen wrote:

>> The Sarfatti controversy sounds interesting. Does the NDS site have

>> info on that?

>>

>No, although it does link

>to Henry Stapp, who is

>somehow related to it. I

>only know about it because

>of a spate of crossposting

>onto alt.consciousness and

>alt.meditation about two

>years back. Perhaps the

>best starting point is

>Sarfatti's own site:

>http://www.stardrive.org

>-- the URL itself indicates

>where Sarfatti sees all

>this as leading to. Engage

>-- warp factor *MU*!

>

>When you return from your

>expedition, perhaps you'll be

>able to suggest some more

>links to Jerry.

 

I've got my MU-warp helmet on, am looking at Sarfatti's site, but still

haven't found anything there that relates science to the core of all

existence, or whatever he'd call it. Will keep looking.

 

I am getting an idea of why his approach might be seen as misrepresenting

science. He links science to entertainment, UFO's, conspiracy theories,

etc. Not all academically respectable. More later!

 

Love,

 

--Greg

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:28:38 EST RainboLily writes:

> RainboLily

>

> Hi,

>

> Physics is really fairly simple common sense unless

> buried in the equations, the overview is not complicated.

 

I agree in respect to

Newtonian physics, with

a couple of centuries

of industrialization at

this point it certainly

has become of part of

consensus culture and

therefore "common sense."

Einsteinian notions are

just beginning to become

part of "common sense,"

but the absorption

process is far from

complete. Action =

Reaction is lot more

inuitive than e=mc squared

-- perhaps because it's so

much more easily observed

in day-to-day life.

 

Quantum and post-quantum

physics don't seem at all

susceptible to "common

sense," but maybe I'm just

unusually thick or too

intimidated to jump in and

immerse myself in them.

>

> Einstein spent the remainder of his life looking for the

> Grand Unified Field equation... or GUT Theory, but

> the mystic experiences the GUT Theory.

 

He may sense the unity, but

he cannot quantify the

experience -- that is also

what eluded Einstein, who

was more than a bit of a

mystic himself.

> In his/her

> vision the mystic

> experience of love, the divine energy of love, as a

> Christian would interpret it; or the mysticism of knowledge

> amongst Buddhists, actualized awareness on an ultimate

> nondual unitive level of mind, or the Advaita Vedanta,

> where there is no transcendent other a purely immanent

> approach.

 

There is quite a difference

between such awareness and

formularizing what that

awareness reveals as a

demonstrably credible

scientific theory.

>

> In Qabalah, the vessel means chakras, which sheds alot

> of light on the text quoted.

>

If I was more interested

in acquiring yet another

tradition-specific

mystical lexicon I'd be

sure to follow up on

this. Both the physics

and the mysticism

referred to strike me as

being quite intellect-

heavy in expression, if

not in essence, and

therefore not my cup of

cha.

 

 

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:53:47 EST RainboLily writes:

> Dear Bruce:

>

> Thank you for your thoughts, on the e=mc2, it is simply that

> matter is energy and energy is mass.

 

The equivalence of

matter and energy is

easy enough to grasp

and was intuited long

before Einstein --

but Einstein's insight

has many other

implications that are

not at all intuitive

-- the role of "c"

(the speed of light)

as a constant, and

time as a fourth

dimension are just

two of those non-

intuitive implications.

> How fast the mass

> becomes energy depends on alot of variables, but we all know

> that all atoms spin, nothing is constant, seeing the energy of

> love is just that, seeing the energy which imbues everything and

> that it is all one. The Dalai Lama wrote on the movement

> of energy as this path:> Aether > Air > Fire > Water > Earth,

> which is a traditionally occult understanding.

 

Sorry, can't parse much

sense out of the above,

it seems loaded with

leaps of faith and very

imprecise implications

of equivalence. The

Dalai Lama reference

seems particularly out

of left field in the

context of Einstein.

>

[snipped yet another

random leap into an

entirely different

topic]

 

 

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For me the jump wasn't so abrupt. I'd like to see the Dalai Lama's

discussion on it, as I haven't seen Buddhists discuss these same 5

elements. I've usually seen it in Hinduism.

 

Love,

 

--Greg

 

 

At 04:45 PM 12/29/99 EST, RainboLily wrote:

>RainboLily

>

>In a message dated 12/29/1999 4:31:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>editor writes:

>

><<

> Sorry, can't parse much

> sense out of the above,

> it seems loaded with

> leaps of faith and very

> imprecise implications

> of equivalence. The

> Dalai Lama reference

> seems particularly out

> of left field in the

> context of Einstein.

> > >>

>Sorry, have done alot of thinking on this and thought that most

>people interested in spirituality would have explored as well, I

>believe the material quoted by Jerry from Raphael went into

>this in depth on his list. Too long to get into here, and I do

>jump, thinking most can follow here.

>

>>All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is

Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality

of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge,

spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

a.

>

>

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Bruce Morgen wrote:

>

> Bruce Morgen <editor

>

> This proposed correlation of

> physics and scientific

> cosmology to various nondual

> and other sacred traditions

> is pretty heady stuff, and

> rather tough sledding for

> those lacking a modicum of

> scientific training. It is

> also very controversial

> among scientists, where it

> might well be noted there is

> quite a strong consensus

> that folks like Dr. Jack

> Sarfatti have gravely

> misinterpreted and

> misrepresented the science

> involved. The NonDuality

> Salon website has several

> interesting links on related

> topics under "Nonduality and

> Physics" at the following URL:

>

> http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/context.htm

>

> As a non-scientist, I tend to

> stay neutral on such matters,

> but perhaps someone with the

> requisite scientific education

> and/or experience would like

> to comment on this

> fascinating confluence of

> enquiry traditions.

>

 

Dr Nick Herbert (http://members.cruzio.com/~quanta/)has an interesting and sexy

approach

to physics and nonduality, quantum tantra

(http://members.cruzio.com/~quanta/qtantra1.html)

 

"I want to woo Her, not view Her, Pet Reality until She purrs"

--Nick Herbert

 

love, andrew

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:45:42 EST RainboLily writes:

> RainboLily

>

> In a message dated 12/29/1999 4:31:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> editor writes:

>

> <<

> Sorry, can't parse much

> sense out of the above,

> it seems loaded with

> leaps of faith and very

> imprecise implications

> of equivalence. The

> Dalai Lama reference

> seems particularly out

> of left field in the

> context of Einstein.

> > >>

> Sorry, have done alot of thinking on this and thought that most

> people interested in spirituality would have explored as well,

 

Sorry, I am neither a

"spirituality" hobbyist

nor a science buff.

> I believe the material quoted by Jerry from Raphael went into

> this in depth on his list. Too long to get into here, and I do

> jump, thinking most can follow here.

>

No problem -- even the

best bread thrown upon

waters just gets soggy

most of the time.

What you wrote comes

across as muddleheaded,

but maybe you're just

spiritually advanced

beyond my ken.

 

 

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Annette,

 

If you could send the text or URL that would be easier than a graphic

image. No hurry; thanks a lot!

 

--Greg

 

At 05:02 PM 12/29/99 EST, RainboLily wrote:

>RainboLily

>

>Dear Greg,

>

>I just took down the site, I'll put it back up later this evening or tomorrow

>morning, it's a direct quote from the Dalai Lama, or I could send as

>a jpg, i'm running out the door right now, let me know which you'd

>prefer, doesn't matter to me ;-)

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On Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:59:08 -0500 Greg Goode <goode writes:

> Greg Goode <goode

>

> For me the jump wasn't so abrupt. I'd like to see the Dalai Lama's

> discussion on it, as I haven't seen Buddhists discuss these same 5

> elements. I've usually seen it in Hinduism.

>

I can certainly understand

your interest as a

participant in Buddhist

practice. Perhaps you

could help me understand

its relation to

Einsteinian relativity

beyond the aforementioned

equivalence of matter and

energy.

 

"Aether" = electromagnetism(?)

invisible wave phenomena(?)

"Air" = gaseous matter(?)

"Fire" = radiated energy(?)

heat(?)

visible light(?)

"Water" = liquid matter(?)

"Earth" = solid matter(?)

 

Am I being too literal here?

Your input, as well as 'bo's,

would be appreciated.

> Love,

>

> --Greg

>

Thanks in advance -- Bruce

>

> At 04:45 PM 12/29/99 EST, RainboLily wrote:

> >RainboLily

> >

> >In a message dated 12/29/1999 4:31:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >editor writes:

> >

> ><<

> > Sorry, can't parse much

> > sense out of the above,

> > it seems loaded with

> > leaps of faith and very

> > imprecise implications

> > of equivalence. The

> > Dalai Lama reference

> > seems particularly out

> > of left field in the

> > context of Einstein.

> > > >>

> >Sorry, have done alot of thinking on this and thought that most

> >people interested in spirituality would have explored as well, I

> >believe the material quoted by Jerry from Raphael went into

> >this in depth on his list. Too long to get into here, and I do

> >jump, thinking most can follow here.

> >

> >>All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places,

> sights,

> perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

> subside

> back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

> different than

> the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

> Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

> is

> Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

> Finality

> of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

> Self-Knowledge,

> spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to

> a.

> >

> >

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> perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and

> subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not

> different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of

> the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is

> always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know

> the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee

> relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from

> within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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Bruce,

 

You certainly provided a good equivalence between the ancient system of

elements and modern scientific categories. I don't have any information on

how it relates to Einsteinian relativity, but I can fill in some more

correspondences at the 5 levels, which probably isn't too helpful for what

you asked for. The correspondences of the 5 levels come from Advaita

Vedanta, Shankara's Tattva Bodha, and Western esotericism including Tarot

and Kabbala. They capture the ways that ancient symbolic systems related

to the human and to the world. So maybe not so different from any

categories we'd insert for relativity, which is not unlike a symbolic

system. I'll add to your chart below. References to the Katha Upanishad

(K.U.) are to Sloka [i.iii.3]. Maybe something will strike a chord,

probably not :-)

 

Bruce:

>I can certainly understand

>your interest as a

>participant in Buddhist

>practice. Perhaps you

>could help me understand

>its relation to

>Einsteinian relativity

>beyond the aforementioned

>equivalence of matter and

>energy.

 

"Aether"

=========

electromagnetism(?)

invisible wave phenomena(?)

space, ears/hearing, the Akasa deity, omniscience, anandamayakosa (bliss

sheath), causal body, deep sleep, Atman or the master of the chariot in the

Katha Upanishad analogy, Isvara or omniscient personal god as the utilizer

of the power of Maya. Buddha images have elongated ears as a symbol of

omniscience.

 

"Air"

======

gaseous matter(?)

skin/touch, the Vaya deity, judgment, vijnanamayakosha (intellect sheath),

subtle body, Taijasa the dreamer in the dream state, Hiranyagarbha the

cosmic totality, the charioteer in the K.U. analogy, Libra/Aquarius/Gemini,

eagle/scorpion, St. John, salamanders, swords, gold, south, Heh and Aleph,

creative

 

"Fire"

=======

radiated energy(?), heat(?), visible light(?)

eyes/sight, the Surya deity, volition, manomayakosa (mental sheath), subtle

body, Taijasa the dreamer in the dream state, Hiranyagarbha the cosmic

totality, the reins of the chariot (doubt/agitation) in the K.U. analogy,

ego, warmth, archetypical, spiritual, Aries/Sagitarius/Leo, lion, St. Mark,

vital heat, sylphs, wands, Yod, red, east

 

"Water"

========

liquid matter(?)

tongue/taste, the Varuna deity, pranamayakosa (seat of the 5 vital airs:

respiration, excretion, digestion, swallowing, circulation), etheric body,

Vaisvanara the Waker, Virat (the world), the horses (senses) in the K.U.

analogy, liquid, formative, emotional, Cancer/Scorpio/Pisces, man, St.

Matthew, blood, undines, cups, Vau, white, west

 

"Earth"

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solid matter(?)

nose/smell, Asvinu Kumana deity, annamayakosa (food sheath, with the gross

components of the organs of action: speech, hands, feet, excretaioin and

sexual generation), physical body, all the above elements quintuplicated or

combined 1(itself)-to-4(others) to make this level, Vaisvanara the Waker,

Virat (the world), the roads (sense objects) in the K.U. analogy, solid,

material, physical, Taurus/Virgo/Capricorn, bull, St. Luke, flesh, gnomes,

pentacles, Heh, black, north

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In a message dated 12/29/1999 5:09:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, goode

writes:

 

<<

Annette,

 

If you could send the text or URL that would be easier than a graphic

image. No hurry; thanks a lot!

 

--Greg

>>

Hi Greg,

 

Here's the link and the URL, i don't have the text typed at the moment,

it comes from a book written by HRH Dalai Lama, called

Ocean of Wisdom

 

<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/MariaVan/Shekinah.html">http://members.aol.co

m/MariaVan/Shekinah.html</A>

 

L*L*L

~ bo ~

 

Oh, and Bruce, here's a mirror for the mud~dling~sling~slang

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"Matter is nothing but gravitationally trapped light." -- Jack Sarfatti

 

Leaves the question what is gravity?, what is light?, if one thinks he

or she is matter.

 

___________________

 

On wrap drive:

Like on this small animation, at

 

http://www.stardrive.org/

 

What is the difference than in looking in the center of, lets say, a

growing rose like this one:

 

http://pages.infinit.net/carrea/blue_ros.jpg

 

Same bindu, different mandala...

 

I may guess that the size or complexity of a mandala could be what some

call the gravitational field or, others, chakras.

 

Antoine

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