Guest guest Posted January 10, 2000 Report Share Posted January 10, 2000 In a message dated 01/10/2000 3:33:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, ZEN2WRK writes: << Dear Rainbo: ...lovely comments. I fear there is entropy, however, because my clocks wind down if I dont wind them...and my battery operated ones keep hungrily demanding new batteries. >> Dear Bob, I believe we've a different perspective or understanding of the principle of Entropy one that I understand as a move- ment towards Chaos on the part of the Universe, such as a mutation as an example, this then being "good," "bad," or "indifferent." Judgement then always being a part of our own human perspective ... But I would postulate that Entropy only exists from our limited human perspective incapable of seeing the much greater vast Universe or Cosmos which in which Divine *sees* *creates* *breathes* IS. But your email has actually caused me to reflect quite alot on the circular movement of atoms, the earth, the galaxy, of our birth, death, rebirth, the movement of nitrogen, N2 > N02 > NO3 > NO4 > N2 (Gads, Jan is showing up on my eyes to correct me *g*, is quite okay if i'm wrong and you let me know) ... anyway, this which you mentioned, but which seems to me a different principle although it could be put to that category ... the question inherent in whichever way it stands is: "If Entropy is a clear principle, then why does the entire galaxy not fall to Chaos instantly?" My response has been that it's Einstein's GUT theory or in other words, more metaphysical or mystical words that it is because of Divine Will and Divine Love, and that of course, Divine *sees* and our limited idiot savant ability to see only one small piece of logic in a much vaster whole leads us to work with our limited equations and theories such as Entropy ... for example although some concepts are understood intellectually, we or I, don't really "get" IT until it's an energetic understanding which is entirely different, yes? L*L*L rainbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 In a message dated 01/11/2000 12:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, carrea writes: << So if i understand you correctly, one day humanity will come to see, understand and experience, from a point a view, than in fact nothing really changes, the "equilibrium" of maximum entropy is already reached. And it is only our "point of view" that as been changing?>> Actually, dear Antoine, this perspective had not occurred to me, there seems to be much laughter in all our questions this morning ... but, yes, this perspective would work as perhaps we view a crystal sculpture, in one time the Sun reflects perhaps a blue ray of light, and later in the day a pink Ray, and perhaps at night glistens from the Moon, so, that all of our perspectives are valid, we are just viewing now or later or standing so that we cannot contain with our eyes the same 360d view that Divine has ... which leads back into the perspective I was illuminating, that we have limited vision, and Divine does not have limited Vision and our understandings sometimes come as by Grace ... :-) <<And the principle that makes us "think, believe, or else" that things are effectively changing from an "objective" point of view would be Minimum entropy (Enthalpy).>> That is interesting ... leading then Enthalpically into the Still Point ... are then there no colors or all colors in the Still Point ... or is the Void the place of no color ...it is afterall the subtleties of the play of light and music and poetry which bring to us all so much de~light . Who knows? Antoine >> I don't know *g* Anna Maria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2000 Report Share Posted January 11, 2000 « the question inherent in whichever way it stands is: "If Entropy is a clear principle, then why does the entire galaxy not fall to Chaos instantly?" » Hello dear Rainbow, This question is interesting, as it can come to as "why is there change", why is not total equilibrium not reached instantly, why is there time. Maximum entropy being defined in thermodynamics as when there is perfect equilibrium between the outside and the inside of a system. In other words when a sub system becomes part, melts, with the containing system. In the big bang system, it comes to asking why does it take time for the universe to expand to its state of equilibrium?. « My response has been that it's Einstein's GUT theory or in other words, more metaphysical or mystical words that it is because of Divine Will and Divine Love, and that of course, Divine *sees* and our limited idiot savant ability to see only one small piece of logic in a much vaster whole leads us to work with our limited equations and theories such as Entropy ... for example although some concepts are understood intellectually, we or I, don't really "get" IT until it's an energetic understanding which is entirely different, yes? » So if i understand you correctly, one day humanity will come to see, understand and experience, from a point a view, than in fact nothing really changes, the "equilibrium" of maximum entropy is already reached. And it is only our "point of view" that as been changing? And the principle that makes us "think, believe, or else" that things are effectively changing from an "objective" point of view would be Minimum entropy (Enthalpy). Who knows? Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2000 Report Share Posted January 12, 2000 Message: 14 RainboLily Re: Re: Entropy and Love Who knows? « I don't know *g* Anna Maria » I will reflect on that. Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2000 Report Share Posted January 13, 2000 In a message dated 01/12/2000 10:48:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, carrea writes: << RainboLily Re: Re: Entropy and Love Who knows? « I don't know *g* Anna Maria » I will reflect on that. Antoine >> Water Reflections in Air Rainbos of Light Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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