Guest guest Posted January 17, 2000 Report Share Posted January 17, 2000 Namaste all, I notice with Sai Baba the exhortation was to 'action'. All kinds of Service work and especially very heavy on the worshipping. Even in study circles there really wasn't much opportunity for advanced teachings, adwaita etc, due to the fundamentalist nature of Sai-Org. Sai's vahini series of lectures were very good though, wherever he got them from. "He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other words he wants cessation of his activities. If a teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or in place of, his other activities, can that be a help to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity is advocated the adviser is not a master but a killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. ===== Keep on truckin-Chant the Gayatri! Breathe So----Ham! ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real, THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light, MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality. OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace. Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2000 Report Share Posted January 17, 2000 At 12:00 PM 1/17/00 -0800, you wrote: >Tony O'Clery <aoclery > >Namaste all, > >I notice with Sai Baba the exhortation was to >'action'. All kinds of Service work and especially >very heavy on the worshipping. Even in study circles >there really wasn't much opportunity for advanced >teachings, adwaita etc, due to the fundamentalist >nature of Sai-Org. > Sai's vahini series of lectures were very good >though, wherever he got them from. > >"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that >is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted >by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other >words he wants cessation of his activities. If a >teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or >in place of, his other activities, can that be a help >to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the >destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity >is advocated the adviser is not a master but a >killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. > >Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. Simply put: Surrender. Do nothing. Just Be. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hi Tony, >"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that >is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted >by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other >words he wants cessation of his activities. If a >teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or >in place of, his other activities, can that be a help >to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the >destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity >is advocated the adviser is not a master but a >killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. I revere Ramana Maharshi, but there are many methods of teaching... with the same goal. I consider Mantak Chia a true master, and he teaches many techniques from the ancient Taoist tradition. You signed with "Om Namah Sivaya"... I have learned much useful method and technique from those of the Shaivite tradition. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 >Re: Guru and action worshipping etc >>"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that >>is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted >>by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other >>words he wants cessation of his activities. If a >>teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or >>in place of, his other activities, can that be a help >>to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the >>destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity >>is advocated the adviser is not a master but a >>killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. Any question must be examined from several different perspectives. Let's consider that there are many diverse paths to Spirit, and there are different stages on these paths. Sri Ramana Maharshi's comment does serve some, it seems inspired & insightful. However, it may not best support those people who have an innate skill at transcending through the selfless service & giving of activity, karma yoga. Consider the life of Mother Teresa for example. Should we have advised Mother Teresa to cease activity? HA! The secret is in approaching action in such a way that the action does not bind the seeker. Act out of selfless service, act for the _unlimited_ joy of action, do not be owned by the reward of action which is always _limited_. If the seeker is endowed with the skill of karma yoga, the 'guru' would need to enliven the seeker's unique inner expansive enthusiasm. And many gurus fall short of this. These false gurus burden the seeker with the guru's agenda rather than enlivening the seeker's Self-sufficiency. Roger Isaacs www.newu.org PS, Hi, this is my first post to this group. I did TM for a decade or more, for the last decade I've focused on the Gyana Yoga/discriminative approach for example J.R. Krishnamurti. Please visit my web site www.newu.org, the work of my departed friend Edward Tarabilda, who's passion was articulating a multi-dimensional approach to Spirit. Also, I recently attended a two week seminar by Barry Long in Oz ( I live in Littleton, CO, USA) www.barrylong.org.uk and I find him very inspiring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Roger Isaacs [rbi] Tuesday, January 18, 2000 11:12 AM Re: Guru and action worshipping etc "Roger Isaacs" <rbi >Re: Guru and action worshipping etc >>"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that >>is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted >>by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other >>words he wants cessation of his activities. If a >>teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or >>in place of, his other activities, can that be a help >>to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the >>destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity >>is advocated the adviser is not a master but a >>killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. Any question must be examined from several different perspectives. Let's consider that there are many diverse paths to Spirit, and there are different stages on these paths. Sri Ramana Maharshi's comment does serve some, it seems inspired & insightful. However, it may not best support those people who have an innate skill at transcending through the selfless service & giving of activity, karma yoga. Consider the life of Mother Teresa for example. Should we have advised Mother Teresa to cease activity? HA! The secret is in approaching action in such a way that the action does not bind the seeker. Act out of selfless service, act for the _unlimited_ joy of action, do not be owned by the reward of action which is always _limited_. If the seeker is endowed with the skill of karma yoga, the 'guru' would need to enliven the seeker's unique inner expansive enthusiasm. And many gurus fall short of this. These false gurus burden the seeker with the guru's agenda rather than enlivening the seeker's Self-sufficiency. Roger Isaacs www.newu.org PS, Hi, this is my first post to this group. I did TM for a decade or more, for the last decade I've focused on the Gyana Yoga/discriminative approach for example J.R. Krishnamurti. Please visit my web site www.newu.org, the work of my departed friend Edward Tarabilda, who's passion was articulating a multi-dimensional approach to Spirit. Also, I recently attended a two week seminar by Barry Long in Oz ( I live in Littleton, CO, USA) www.barrylong.org.uk and I find him very inspiring. Thanks Roger for joining and welcome to the Sangha. I agree. Each individual path is unique. Just as the sunlight reflects uniquely all different things, depending on their inherent nature and color, the light of consciousness reflects each soul uniquely at different times depending upon the interest and inclinations of the soul. Thanks again for your insightful comments and thank you Dharma as well for yours. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Roger is a dear friend and one of the truly unique spiritual voices on the net, speaking out both reasonably and passionately for the innate diversity of spiritual endeavor. He is quite well acquainted with the Fairfield, IA community where our lately-quiet brother Dirk lives and his website at http://www.newu.org is both a fitting tribute to his late mentor and a very useful resource. I'm very glad he's chosen and speak up -- there are what I feel to be some interesting dialogues between us in "Chapter 1" at http://come.to/realization too. We don't alway agree 100% -- I'm not at all fond of Mother Teresa as a karma yogini exemplar, for one disagreement -- but I hereby cite Roger for and with one of my favorite Harshadeva phrases: "spiritual maturity." On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:11:37 -0700 "Roger Isaacs" <rbi writes: > "Roger Isaacs" <rbi > > >Re: Guru and action worshipping etc > >>"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that > >>is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted > >>by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other > >>words he wants cessation of his activities. If a > >>teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or > >>in place of, his other activities, can that be a help > >>to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the > >>destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity > >>is advocated the adviser is not a master but a > >>killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. > > > Any question must be examined from several different perspectives. > Let's > consider that there are many diverse paths to Spirit, and there are > different stages on these paths. > > Sri Ramana Maharshi's comment does serve some, it seems inspired & > insightful. However, it may not best support those people who have > an innate > skill at transcending through the selfless service & giving of > activity, karma yoga. > > Consider the life of Mother Teresa for example. Should we have > advised > Mother Teresa to cease activity? HA! The secret is in approaching > action in > such a way that the action does not bind the seeker. Act out of > selfless > service, act for the _unlimited_ joy of action, do not be owned by > the reward of action which is always _limited_. > > If the seeker is endowed with the skill of karma yoga, the 'guru' > would > need to enliven the seeker's unique inner expansive enthusiasm. And > many > gurus fall short of this. These false gurus burden the seeker with > the > guru's agenda rather than enlivening the seeker's Self-sufficiency. > > Roger Isaacs > www.newu.org > > PS, > Hi, this is my first post to this group. I did TM for a decade or > more, for > the last decade I've focused on the Gyana Yoga/discriminative > approach for > example J.R. Krishnamurti. Please visit my web site www.newu.org, > the work of my departed friend Edward Tarabilda, who's passion was > articulating a > multi-dimensional approach to Spirit. Also, I recently attended a > two week > seminar by Barry Long in Oz ( I live in Littleton, CO, USA) > www.barrylong.org.uk and I find him very inspiring. > http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hi Roger, and welcome. Discrimination. How does that affect your daily life? Lynne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Hello Harsha and Roger: To this mind when true compassion sets in one can not help but be involved in trying to uplift others but there seems to be an awareness of doing with detachment and a sense of not being particularly involved in the action. It is probably important to understand that Sri Ramana Maharshi was speaking of a 'master'. The problem I ran into was that as time went on the teacher I was working with became very inflated and acted like a 'master' but he was in no way detached. Constant work was required by this man most of it for the benefit of his ambition and self-image. I experienced exactly what Sri Ramana Maharshi speaks of as being afflicted already by my activities....truck loads of frustration, guilt and stress from activities that were not in line with a 'flow'. It became impossible once my so-called 'spiritual' activities were more out of the 'flow' than any other activity I had ever undertaken. It is not my karma this lifetime to sit in a cave and meditate all day therefore I am active in some way but I try to keep in line with "I am not the doer" and what is interesting to me is that when I do become attached or grasping of the fruits of my actions resentment, fatigue, boredom etc. quickly comes into the mind. Linda "Roger Isaacs" <rbi >Re: Guru and action worshipping etc >>"He who instructs an ardent seeker to do this or that >>is not a true master. The seeker is already afflicted >>by his activities and wants peace and rest. In other >>words he wants cessation of his activities. If a >>teacher tells him to do something in addition to, or >>in place of, his other activities, can that be a help >>to the seeker? Activity is creation, Activity is the >>destruction of one's inherent happiness. If activity >>is advocated the adviser is not a master but a >>killer." Sri Ramana Maharshi. >Any question must be examined from several different >perspectives. Let's>consider that there are many diverse paths to Spirit, and there are>different stages on these paths. >Sri Ramana Maharshi's comment does serve some, it seems >inspired &>insightful. However, it may not best support those people who have >an innate>skill at transcending through the selfless service & giving of activity, >karma yoga. >Consider the life of Mother Teresa for example. Should we have >advised>Mother Teresa to cease activity? HA! The secret is in approaching >action in>such a way that the action does not bind the seeker. Act out of >selfless>service, act for the _unlimited_ joy of action, do not be owned by >the>reward of action which is always _limited_. >If the seeker is endowed with the skill of karma yoga, the 'guru' >would>need to enliven the seeker's unique inner expansive enthusiasm. >And many>gurus fall short of this. These false gurus burden the seeker with >the>guru's agenda rather than enlivening the seeker's Self-sufficiency. Roger Isaacs www.newu.org Harsha: >Thanks Roger for joining and welcome to the Sangha. I agree. >Each individual path is unique. Just as the sunlight reflects >uniquely all different things,depending on their inherent nature and >color, the light of consciousness reflects each soul uniquely at >different times depending upon the interest and inclinations of the >soul. >Thanks again for your insightful comments and thank you Dharma >as well for yours. Harsha --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get great offers on top-notch products that match your interests! Sign up for eLerts at: <a href=" http://clickme./ad/elerts1 ">Click Here</a> ------ All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Linda Callanan wrote: > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hello Harsha and Roger: > > To this mind when true compassion sets in one can not help but be involved > in trying to uplift others but there seems to be an awareness of doing with > detachment and a sense of not being particularly involved in the action. It > is probably important to understand that Sri Ramana Maharshi was speaking of > a 'master'. The problem I ran into was that as time went on the teacher I > was working with became very inflated and acted like a 'master' but he was > in no way detached. Constant work was required by this man most of it for > the benefit of his ambition and self-image. I experienced exactly what Sri > Ramana Maharshi speaks of as being afflicted already by my > activities....truck loads of frustration, guilt and stress from activities > that were not in line with a 'flow'. It became impossible once my so-called > 'spiritual' activities were more out of the 'flow' than any other activity I > had ever undertaken. It is not my karma this lifetime to sit in a cave and > meditate all day therefore I am active in some way but I try to keep in line > with "I am not the doer" and what is interesting to me is that when I do > become attached or grasping of the fruits of my actions resentment, fatigue, > boredom etc. quickly comes into the mind. > > Linda > Thank you for sharing Linda. You speak some deep truths about "spiritual relationships" from actual experience. It seems to me that you have gained great wisdom, even though the past contains some hurt for you. You are in a position to understand and appreciate the profound truth behind what Ramana Maharshi is saying. Many of Ramana Maharshi's utterances are remarkable and are spoken from the very depths of the Truth of the Heart. He makes no compromises when speaking to those of the highest spiritual understanding. However the great Sage of Arunachala was equally remarkable in his compassion and understanding of human nature. When confronted with people who were not ready, due to inherent tendencies, to abide in the simple nature of Being, he supported various activities such as yogic exercises, pranayama, selfless service, chanting, etc. He only suggested that the activities be engaged in a fashion of surrender to the Lord. Ramana himself took part in various activities of devotional nature, writing poetry, cooking, working. In this way he demonstrated that abiding in Being need not mean being inactive. He indicated that the Immovable was contained in the nature of movement and that background for all action is Silence. And Pure Action is not different than Silence Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2000 Report Share Posted January 18, 2000 Thanks, Bruce, for this most warm welcome. I will try to live upto your comments and no doubt it will be a challenge. "We don't always agree 100%". That's good, may our differences in viewpoint inspire insight. Regarding Mother Teresa. I cite her as a well know example of someone apparently lead by the impulse of selfless service. However, I _strongly_ disagree with her political/religious doctrine such as: no birth control, no divorce, unthinkingly follow the Catholic authority, etc... I could cite Adi Da instead but, alas, I'd run into problems there too! In fact Mother Teresa and I seem to be natural enemies especially with regard to our completely opposed attitudes toward authority. Apparently her perfection (if you will) in the area of service did not extend into discrimination (discrimination in the style of J.R. Krishnamurti). But this is the way of things: realized beings (if we can suppose, regarding her) always exhibit outward flaws or limitations. Could Ramana Maharishi best Michael Jordon one on one? limitation! limitation! And this is a blessing: every quirk of realized beings warns us to seek Spirit WITHIN rather in the worship of the these outwardly limited (yet inwardly boundless) beings. I openly embrace in Mother Teresa for what appears to be perfection in selfless service, yet this embrace does not require the acceptance of her political/religious views. Roger Isaacs www.newu.org > Bruce Morgen <editor >Re: Fw: Guru and action worshipping etc > >Roger is a dear friend and >one of the truly unique >spiritual voices on the >net, speaking out both >reasonably and passionately >for the innate diversity of >spiritual endeavor. He is >quite well acquainted with >the Fairfield, IA community >where our lately-quiet >brother Dirk lives and his >website at http://www.newu.org >is both a fitting tribute to >his late mentor and a very >useful resource. > >I'm very glad he's chosen > and speak up -- >there are what I feel to be >some interesting dialogues >between us in "Chapter 1" >at http://come.to/realization >too. We don't alway agree >100% -- I'm not at all fond >of Mother Teresa as a karma >yogini exemplar, for one >disagreement -- but I hereby >cite Roger for and with one >of my favorite Harshadeva >phrases: "spiritual maturity." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 Good Morning Harsha: I like that....Pure Action is not different from Silence....when acting from that space it appears that whatever the action it is done in Bliss. What you say about the pain of my past is true, betrayal is something the ego does not let of easily. However, the freedom from the structure of the 'yoga sandbox' is wonderful. Having to move beyond that past led me to knowing that what is needed is within and that is something that can not be lost through anyone or anything. For myself, I now am able to enjoy spirituality on different levels. This month I was able to attend a kirtan with Krishna Das down in New York City. Even though I am a native New Yorker all of my yoga training took place in Florida in a rigid, serious environment. It was wonderful to chant with Krishna who is humble and filled with love for what he is doing. People were coming in late or leaving early and he had no negative reaction....he simply continued chanting. At one point he made the comment that if 'spirituality was not like making love why bother'. Later on in the evening Alan Finger led about 100 people through a rather advanced meditation without judging whether people were 'worthy' of this technique or even charging for it. This joyous sharing simply because is very new to me. This spring I will, hopefully, be attending a weekend at the Arsha Vidya Gurukulum which will focus on Sri Ramana Maharshi.....needless to say I am looking forward to that. One more benefit is that without the pain of the past I would never have found which has helped greatly in the healing. There is compassion on this list and such diversity that I was able to feel that I was not completely alone as I struggled to move forward. You have provided a wonderful service here and I am grateful for that. Here's to the love in spirituality!!!!! Namaste, Linda >However the great Sage of Arunachala was equally remarkable in >his compassion and understanding of human nature. When >confronted with people who were not ready, due to inherent >tendencies, to abide in the simple nature of Being, he supported >various activities such as yogic exercises, pranayama, selfless >service, chanting, etc. He only suggested that the activities be >engaged in a fashion of surrender to the Lord. Ramana himself >took part in various activities of devotional nature, writing poetry, >cooking, working. In this way he demonstrated that abiding in >Being need not mean >being inactive. He indicated that the Immovable was contained in >the nature of movement and that background for all action is >Silence. And Pure Action is not different than Silence Love to all Harsha --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get great offers on top-notch products that match your interests! Sign up for eLerts at: <a href=" http://clickme./ad/elerts1 ">Click Here</a> ------ All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 "Linda Callanan" <shastra Good Morning Harsha: I like that....Pure Action is not different from Silence....when acting from that space it appears that whatever the action it is done in Bliss. What you say about the pain of my past is true, betrayal is something the ego does not let of easily. However, the freedom from the structure of the 'yoga sandbox' is wonderful. Having to move beyond that past led me to knowing that what is needed is within and that is something that can not be lost through anyone or anything. For myself, I now am able to enjoy spirituality on different levels. This month I was able to attend a kirtan with Krishna Das down in New York City. Even though I am a native New Yorker all of my yoga training took place in Florida in a rigid, serious environment. It was wonderful to chant with Krishna who is humble and filled with love for what he is doing. People were coming in late or leaving early and he had no negative reaction....he simply continued chanting. At one point he made the comment that if 'spirituality was not like making love why bother'. Later on in the evening Alan Finger led about 100 people through a rather advanced meditation without judging whether people were 'worthy' of this technique or even charging for it. This joyous sharing simply because is very new to me. This spring I will, hopefully, be attending a weekend at the Arsha Vidya Gurukulum which will focus on Sri Ramana Maharshi.....needless to say I am looking forward to that. One more benefit is that without the pain of the past I would never have found which has helped greatly in the healing. There is compassion on this list and such diversity that I was able to feel that I was not completely alone as I struggled to move forward. You have provided a wonderful service here and I am grateful for that. Here's to the love in spirituality!!!!! Namaste, Linda Thanks for your nice message Linda. I can see how you are experiencing the joy of freedom in New York at various satsangs without restrictions of philosophy or tradition or any one person. Truly what you have (what we all have) is not dependent on any individual or tradition. Genuine Sages like Ramana always indicate that Self-Nature is not given by anyone but is always Present to be Recognized. It is such a joy to have you and the others sharing this space. Yes, I think the list has compassion and diversity and mutual respect. The underlying and perhaps unspoken theme here is of nonviolence and understanding. That is not a pretense or anything phony. It is just who we are. Of course as humans, we make mistakes. When we see such things we correct them. Welcome to all the members to the sangha Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 >lhelwig <lhelwig >Re: Re: Guru and action worshipping etc > >Hi Roger, and welcome. > >Discrimination. > >How does that affect your daily life? > >Lynne A delightful question! During my TM days we were told something like "when you notice that you are off the mantra into thoughts or emotion then effortlessly come back to the mantra". The subtle act of noticing when we're NOT following the mantra is an act of discrimination. I don't practice TM anymore, I think it's good for some, and I don't claim to represent TM in any way. But this seems like a good example to start with. In the case of mantra meditation we have a focus, the mantra, and we notice when that attention has been subverted by other mental/emotional activity. With Gyana Yoga (the yoga of discrimination) rather than coming back to a mantra, we come into stillness, awareness, or consciousness not overwhelmed by any object. This stillness is a direct result of having noticed any subversion. And we are vigilantly watchful increasingly so at all times to ensure that awareness has not been subverted. And this must be an effortless process, otherwise the very process of meditation might be just more subversion in disguise! First of all, I don't think this is appropriate for everyone, it will probably cause strain or be unproductive for most. I believe there are numerous EQUAL paths to God, we should use our innate gift, use what works. But, I am also sure we can all learn from other approaches. So back to your question "How does that affect your daily life?" This process of seeing the false gradually strips away illusions & attachments. Gradually one is left more & more in vigilant receptive stillness. In receptive stillness there is nothing left to do. Transformational Grace descends into stillness. Daily life is reduction of illusion culminating in Grace infusing Spirit in all aspects of life. I might be anticipating a bit! :-) Roger Isaacs www.newu.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2000 Report Share Posted January 19, 2000 > "Linda Callanan" <shastra >RE: Re: Guru and action worshipping etc > >Hello Harsha and Roger: > >... It is not my karma this lifetime to sit in a cave and >meditate all day therefore I am active in some way but I try to keep in line >with "I am not the doer" and what is interesting to me is that when I do >become attached or grasping of the fruits of my actions resentment, fatigue, >boredom etc. quickly comes into the mind. > >Linda "I am not the doer". Yes, then one is not active, even in the midst of activity. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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