Tony/Dan/who incarnates?

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Dan:

Thanks for your thoughts here, Tony.

It is seen that the *appearance* of

incarnation is thought-dependent

recognition of tendencies and attachments

related to patterns of thought and memory.

 

There is nothing to support incarnation

other than thought-recognition of

thought-based sensory forms and memory tendencies.

 

Apart from dependency on thought,

no one incarnated, and incarnation

has nothing to support it.

 

The various realms of religion and

mythology cannot be considered as

realities independent of thought,

regardless of whether they are

described as "subtle" or "gross".

 

Shanti,

 

Dan

 

At 03:59 PM 1/21/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Tony O'Clery <aoclery

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>--- Xanma wrote:

>> <Dan: What isn't clear here when reading such

>> statements is "who" incarnates. If there is only

>> Self, how can

>> incarnation be described as beginning or ending?

>>

>> Any other comments that might shed light here would

>> be appreciated.

>

>Namaste All,

>

>It is my understanding that the only thing that really

>incarnates is the tendencies or samskaras etc that are

>imprinted.

>

>More specifically the anandamayakosa and the

>vjnanamayakosa( the annamya, lower-pranamaya and

>manomayakosas disintegrate on the death of the

>inividual or sometime afterwards), are what incarnate

>and this is what we call the 'soul'.

>

>It is a thought entity, for there is only one soul in

>the universe. As these descend or take rebirth the

>'entity', attracts to it the vibrations left at lower

>levels like the material plane from previous

>incarnations.

>

> Depending on one's state of awareness etc at death

>one goes to the lower planes and takes a form, much

>like one has here in appearance, one's mind creates

>the form and even the surroundings in concert with

>like minded people. If one goes to a higher plane one

>takes a somewhat amorphous light energy form, not

>recognisable as a late human. Here and on lower planes

>learning still continues between incarnations. The

>higher planes are very blissful and the very low

>planes are the hellish planes. Most ordinary folks are

>in the middle planes.

> All in the one illusory mind though ha ha!!

>

>Some entities get stuck in the bardo after death and

>become pretas, they don't drop the lower bodies

>properly.

>

>A great number of unenlightened souls, remain

>virtually unconscious between incarnations.

>

>So the ego/mind incarnates with it's tendencies.

> Just my view on it. Although it has also been my

>experience, on visiting people after they have died.

>

>God plus thought equals man, Man minus thought equals

>God.

>Love, Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

>

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