Guest guest Posted January 29, 2000 Report Share Posted January 29, 2000 In a message dated 01/29/2000 2:31:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, editor writes: > "...enlightenment is not a fixed place. > There is no fixed place. All one has to > do is understand the chaos, the disorder > in which we live. In the understanding of > that, we have order and there comes > clarity, there comes certainty. And that > certainty is not the invention of thought. > That certainty is intelligence....when all > this is seen clearly, the door opens. > What lies beyond this is not nameable. > It can not be described and anyone > who describes it has never seen it." If what is undescribable cannot be described by the one who saw it Then sHe must not *see* it.... sHe is it. So we look in the mirror. To see what is tHere (in order to describe it). What do we see? You? Me? We? One, Two, or Three? I've seen you I've seen me But have I seen that you are me? xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2000 Report Share Posted January 29, 2000 "...enlightenment is not a fixed place. There is no fixed place. All one has to do is understand the chaos, the disorder in which we live. In the understanding of that, we have order and there comes clarity, there comes certainty. And that certainty is not the invention of thought. That certainty is intelligence....when all this is seen clearly, the door opens. What lies beyond this is not nameable. It can not be described and anyone who describes it has never seen it." http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2000 Report Share Posted January 29, 2000 In a message dated 1/29/00 11:31:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, editor writes: << That certainty is intelligence....when all this is seen clearly, the door opens. What lies beyond this is not nameable. It can not be described and anyone who describes it has never seen it." >> Yes, very apropos. As Lao Tzu quipped one day after a bad bowl of mizo soup, "The True Tao is the Tao that cannot be described." Of course, his dyspepsia may have had a lot to do with this rather droll remark. I personally also like Meister Eckhart's and William Blake's remarks... "What exists needs no further explanation" and "God is in the details...if we fail to find God, it is only because we fail to look closely enough." I think most people try too hard to find what is already existing within and around themselves. But letting go of thought and simply come to understand inwardly seems contrary to the Western intellectual experience. Words do not describe reality, they merely place layers of obscurity between us and reality. Oops, there's a quote and it's mine. Silly me. Blessings Love, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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