Guest guest Posted January 30, 2000 Report Share Posted January 30, 2000 Namaste All, > > She wrote:>I suppose it is an old yoga teaching > (Patanjali) to be indifferent towards evil.< > > Pardon me but that is an intellectual stance. Is > it not a greater violation of Ahimsa or non-violence > to standby and permit violence? Then that is > complicity and one becomes the same as the > perpetrator, or worse for there is no excuse at all. > > In Sai Baba's case he is molesting children, and more, sitting on one's intellectual arse and saying, 'I'm > indifferent to evil' is a lot of bollocks. Patanjali > is talking about attachment and detachment, or > nishkarma karma, no karma, karma, not complicity and inaction. In this > case inaction is tantamount to action. > > It is interesting that some see me as full of rancour > re Sai Baba. They say this from a comfortable > intellectual position, where their intelligence can > judge the world but take no personal action. Mentally > projecting themselves into the world so to speak. The > same types fiddled while Rome burned and wrung their > hands while Hitler burned people. It is real while one > is in it, hit the wall and see. One has to deal with > it not duck it. Words are cheap. > > Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. Still a Kshatriya, not yet a Brahmin. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/escapesai1.htm ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real, THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light, MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality. OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace. Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2000 Report Share Posted January 31, 2000 In a message dated 1/30/00 3:54:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, aoclery writes: << > It is interesting that some see me as full of rancour > re Sai Baba. They say this from a comfortable > intellectual position, where their intelligence can > judge the world but take no personal action. Mentally > projecting themselves into the world so to speak. The > same types fiddled while Rome burned and wrung their > hands while Hitler burned people. It is real while one > is in it, hit the wall and see. One has to deal with > it not duck it. Words are cheap. > >> Dear Tony: Ah, the two-step response, I see. Well, first of all I think you need to be quite careful about the accusations accusing any one of child molestation. Perhaps it is true...perhaps not. I am not sure that you are in a position to know this beyond a legal "shadow of a doubt." I would withhold judgment until all of the facts were in. Libel and slander are deadly weapons and must be avoided at all costs...it damages more than "actions" do sometimes. You must be well aware that child molestation is very common in the Priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church. Have you been protesting this? Do you complain to the diocese in your area? You see, "words are cheap" is quite right. But I fail to see how you are accomplishing anything other than talk and character assassination at this point, without legal evidence, witnesses with impeccable credentials, etc. We should all hope that such stories are untrue, and if in fact they are true, then the deed should be condemned, but the good deeds of the person should also be kept in mind. There are legal and ethical things that should be done to prevent this from happening (if it happened) again. I really don't understand what "deeds" you are doing that are different from "words." Please give examples. I wish we could resolve this odd debate that you seem to have initiated. We need realistic approaches, however, not just hearsay and innuendo. Warm Regards, Blessings, Zenbob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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