RE: [NondualitySalon] The Advaita Shuffle

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Roger Isaacs [rbi]

Tuesday, February 01, 2000 1:51 PM

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[NondualitySalon] Re: The Advaita Shuffle

 

"Roger Isaacs" <rbi

>"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar

>And thank you Sri Gregji for bringing in the Emptiness Shuffle. And since

it

>comes alongside with the Compassion Shuffle, it is no doubt totally supreme

>in the hierarchy of shuffles! :--).

>

>Mirror Mirror on the Wall!

>Who is the emptiest of them all!

>The highest one, the one supreme!

>The best shuffler among all who seem,

>to know the shuffle steps so well

>Who moves in such stillness

>that He cannot tell

>where the dance begins and ends.

>

>

>Love

>Harsha

 

 

Are you confusing (if I may be presumptuous) the concept of God as infinite

& unknowable & indescribable, with a procedure of investigation using reason

(Nyaya philosophy)?

 

Yes, God as indescribable is, IMHO, a valid perspective, infact an

absolutely essential perspective.

 

However, this does not invalid reason. Reason is also an absolutely

essential tool for gaining knowledge. We can't function in the world without

it. And, for some, it can be a way to God.

 

There are traps in the way of Love: for example when love is tainted by self

interest and thereby fails to expand to the supreme. There are traps on the

way of Reason, for example, one may get stuck in a particular view point &

operate out of the pattern of memory.

 

An analogy about diversity: if one's heart expands in the fullness/wholeness

of light, who can deny? But we know that light is both particle(parts &

division) & wave(wholeness). What you see depends on what you look for or

what you are attuned to. While celebrating wholeness(wave), we must also

acknowledge the perspective of division(particle)? Otherwise our wholeness

is limited?!

 

Reason & Love are just two different colors in the rainbow. If those who

prefer one deny the other...well... our cultures have been doing that

endlessly with horrific consequences.

 

Harsha, you eloquently express expansive feeling here, and I would be

incomplete without that warmth, I must have it. Perhaps our task together is

to fully appreciate & unite Love & Reason. Outwardly Love (expansion) &

Reason (contraction) are opposing, perhaps only in the heart of living

consciousness can they be united.

 

My sincere attempt here is to NOT attack the personality or Being of Petros,

but rather to point out 'cavil' or false reasoning. And the same goes for

that revered teacher Gangaji.

 

God is within, It is certainly not in confined ANY _external_ personality,

such as Andrew Cohen, Gangaji, Jesus, Buddha etc. And God can never be

confined to the words or discourse of any one personality. All external

personalities are limited, and so recognizing, let us laugh joyously

together at our external limitations, and look within to the unlimited.

 

I gotta get some work done now!!

 

Love,

Roger

 

 

Thanks Roger I agree with much of what you said. Reason is an essential tool

and is needed. I was not really defending Petros or anything like that. Also

I was not really attacking you. I was simply indicating the comical side of

the competitive shuffle (the competing spiritual philosophies). Frankly what

you say makes a lot of sense Roger and like Melody I feel honored by your

presence.

 

Bruce put a song up here a while back (Oh Lord Oh Lord my intentions are

good, Oh Lord Don't let me be misunderstood). I sing that quite a bit

because it is a catchy tune.

 

Love

Harsha