Guest guest Posted February 2, 2000 Report Share Posted February 2, 2000 Greg Goode [goode] Wednesday, February 02, 2000 2:43 AM NondualitySalon ; NondualitySalon Re: [NondualitySalon] Andrew/ re: highest teaching Greg Goode <goode This is talk about words - but most advaitins prefer to use the term fullness or the Self instead of emptiness. The fullness of the Self is Sat-Chit-Ananda. In Buddhism, this is not normally said of emptiness. Some, like Vivekananda, like to say that the plenum of the advaitin *just is* the void of the Buddhist. But most Buddhists and most followers of Shankara don't talk this way... To some extent, whichever way people go on this depends on temperament and aesthetics. I would agree with you Greg and add further that it also depends on the actual pragmatic Knowledge and Experience of different modes of consciousness, and seeing the underlying foundation (or lack of foundation) behind the nature of experience. Let us be very clear about this. Just because some one is an "Advaitin" does not mean they have Knowledge of the Self and can speak of it in any meaningful way (other than the usual quotes from scriptures).. Naturally such a person might indeed find the Buddhist notion of "Emptiness" to be depressing. And Just because someone calls him/her self a Buddhist does not imply an understanding of the true nature of Emptiness. So for such a person to suggest that Emptiness is a higher form of teaching than Sat-Chit-Ananda may just be an attempt to engage in the usual intellectual gymnastics. Advaitins and Buddhist at very high levels of spiritual attainment can differ in their views. At the very highest level, however, we see the merging of perspectives. The ones with the highest understanding are usually silent even when others create a commotion about the nature of Reality. My experience is that the Self as Sat-Chit-Ananda is Both the Fullness of Consciousness and the Total Emptiness from which all things originate. The two notions appear different only from the perspective of the mind which by nature is caught up in diversity. In the Knowledge of the Self, You are the Self. You are the Perceiver and the Perception and yet there is Absolutely Nothing to Perceive. You are the Emptiness from which you are born. If we go behind the feeling/awareness of the I AM, we can intuitively sense this. Holding on to this intuitive sense of Emptiness which can be seen/felt in the Present Beingness/Nowness and merging with it is a natural path for some. Love to all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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