Guest guest Posted February 10, 2000 Report Share Posted February 10, 2000 At 03:57 PM 2/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >andrew macnab <a.macnab > >Tony O'Clery wrote: >> >> Tony O'Clery <aoclery >> >> Namaste All, >> >> When Pilate asked Jesus, " What is Truth?", Jesus was >> silent. >> >> " The answer to most questions is the experience of >> the Self and this cannot be communicated verbally". >> Mathru Sri Sarada. >> >> " Mind will not kill the mind. Self has to kill the >> mind in the final stage. The Grace of the Guru,( Inner >> Guru), is quite essential to kill the mind. In the >> absence of this Grace one cannot kill the mind and >> realise the Self." Sri Lakshmana Swamy. >> >> In other words this is the last piece of the jigsaw >> that I put in different words. No amount of wordy >> intellectual roundabouts will do it. They may >> establish a thought of nonduality but that is still a >> thought.? >> >> Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. >> > > > The Yoga Sutra (Patanjali) says; > >"The apparent causes of a transformation do not in fact bring it about,. They merely >remove the obstacles to natural growth, as a farmer clears the ground for his crops." > > Radical passionate total self-inquiry is the only way, and it is ultimately silent, >solitary simple steady attention, but there are lots of words and thoughts along the >way. This is an e-mail list after all, words are the tools available here. > Self is just here like the air, it doesn't need to be got to. It's not a matter of >killing the mind, it's the mind surrendering willingly, dying while living, which >takes trust and love. The mind must hear the call of Self, I don't know how that >happens. Reading discussing and talking about it increase the likelyhood, like >standing around in open fields during thunderstorms increase the likelyhood of being >struck by lightning. > >love, andrew D: It's silly to talk about killing something. What's the point of such talk? As if anyone could know beforehand what needed to die, or how it would die. As if presentness weren't simply undying, unborn, and unsplit. Grace is simply a word for not-knowing, not-controlling. Who can say a true word about it, that's what I want to know. Nothing we say is true. If we speak words that bring us to a point of not-knowing, of openness, then - blessings! -- Love -- Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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