Guest guest Posted February 11, 2000 Report Share Posted February 11, 2000 On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:01:18 -0500 Greg Goode <goode writes: > Greg Goode <goode > > > > Catherine Cardinal, Ph.D. > _The_Ten_Commandments_of_Self-Esteem_ > Kansas City: Andrews McMeel Publishing, 1998 > ISBN: 0-8362-5196-2 > > ====================== > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > feel bad about thyself. That'd make a lot folks into instant hermits, don't you agree? Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, of course.... > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > crazy behavior. Hmm, that sort of closes off any sort of counseling as a vocation, doesn't it? > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > dysfunctional than thyself. ...assuming that one is functional enough to make a useful comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). Bodies are often no more trustworthy than minds. Trust me on that....:-) > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > feelings. This person has obviously never had to find and keep gainful employment in a typical commercial or institutional setting. > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > thy brethren. It is not right for me to eat meat, can I now tell my neighbors to quit their barbeques next summer? > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. As far as I can tell, there is no limit to capacity, nor does anyone "own" it! > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. The jails and psych wards are brimming with people who feel this way, no? > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > days of thy life. > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > judgmental of > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good me, > and doesn't benefit others either. > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations require *a lot* of context to be useful, Greg -- as a standalone prescription, they fall down -- *hard.* http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Hi Bruce: I certainly would have preferred these 10 commandments to the ones I learned from the good nuns. Perhaps these are coming from a more female perspective because #'s 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,10 certainly have shaped much of my life and the lives of many other women that I know. Linda > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > feel bad about thyself. That'd make a lot folks into instant hermits, don't you agree? Not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, of course.... > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > crazy behavior. Hmm, that sort of closes off any sort of counseling as a vocation, doesn't it? > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > dysfunctional than thyself. ...assuming that one is functional enough to make a useful comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). Bodies are often no more trustworthy than minds. Trust me on that....:-) > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > feelings. This person has obviously never had to find and keep gainful employment in a typical commercial or institutional setting. > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > thy brethren. It is not right for me to eat meat, can I now tell my neighbors to quit their barbeques next summer? > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. As far as I can tell, there is no limit to capacity, nor does anyone "own" it! > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. The jails and psych wards are brimming with people who feel this way, no? > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > days of thy life. > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > judgmental of > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good me, > and doesn't benefit others either. > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations require *a lot* of context to be useful, Greg -- as a standalone prescription, they fall down -- *hard.* http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa. ZERO. Rates as low as 0 percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the credit you deserve. Apply now. Get your NextCard Visa at <a href=" http://clickme./ad/NextcardCreative3 ">Click Here</a> ------ All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 Bruce Morgen wrote: > Bruce Morgen <editor > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:01:18 -0500 Greg Goode <goode writes: > > Greg Goode <goode > > > > > > > > Catherine Cardinal, Ph.D. > > _The_Ten_Commandments_of_Self-Esteem_ > > Kansas City: Andrews McMeel Publishing, 1998 > > ISBN: 0-8362-5196-2 > > > > ====================== > > > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > > feel bad about thyself. > > That'd make a lot folks into > instant hermits, don't you > agree? Not saying that's > necessarily a bad thing, of > course.... > > > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > > crazy behavior. > > Hmm, that sort of closes off > any sort of counseling as a > vocation, doesn't it? > > > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > > dysfunctional than thyself. > > ..assuming that one is functional > enough to make a useful > comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). > > Bodies are often no more > trustworthy than minds. > Trust me on that....:-) > > > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > > feelings. > > This person has obviously > never had to find and keep > gainful employment in a > typical commercial or > institutional setting. > > > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > > thy brethren. > > It is not right for me to > eat meat, can I now tell > my neighbors to quit their > barbeques next summer? > > > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. > > As far as I can tell, there > is no limit to capacity, nor > does anyone "own" it! > > > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. > > The jails and psych wards > are brimming with people who > feel this way, no? > > > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. > > *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > > days of thy life. > > > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > > judgmental of > > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good me, > > and doesn't benefit others either. > > > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations > require *a lot* of context to be > useful, Greg -- as a standalone > prescription, they fall down -- > *hard.* > > That is pretty funny Bruceji. I think Danji will find your comment on number 2 to be particularly relevant! :--). Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2000 Report Share Posted February 12, 2000 On Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:18:51 -0500 "Linda Callanan" <shastra writes: > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hi Bruce: > > I certainly would have preferred these 10 commandments to the ones I > learned > from the good nuns. Those are best looked at as descriptive rather the prescriptive -- a depiction of some of the signs of a realized person manifesting intrinsic morality rather than a recipe for a righteous life. > Perhaps these are coming from a more female perspective > because #'s 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,10 certainly have shaped much of my life > and the lives of many other women that I know. I don't notice any particular gender bias, but maybe that reflects my gender bias. :-) I voiced my misgivings about them as a standalone prescription, if some of them work well for you, perhaps your life and those of "many other women" have provided the appropriate context -- what do you think? > > Linda > Thanks for your comments. Much love -- Bruce > > > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > > feel bad about thyself. > > That'd make a lot folks into > instant hermits, don't you > agree? Not saying that's > necessarily a bad thing, of > course.... > > > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > > crazy behavior. > > Hmm, that sort of closes off > any sort of counseling as a > vocation, doesn't it? > > > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > > dysfunctional than thyself. > > ..assuming that one is functional > enough to make a useful > comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). > > Bodies are often no more > trustworthy than minds. > Trust me on that....:-) > > > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > > feelings. > > This person has obviously > never had to find and keep > gainful employment in a > typical commercial or > institutional setting. > > > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > > thy brethren. > > It is not right for me to > eat meat, can I now tell > my neighbors to quit their > barbeques next summer? > > > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. > > As far as I can tell, there > is no limit to capacity, nor > does anyone "own" it! > > > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. > > The jails and psych wards > are brimming with people who > feel this way, no? > > > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. > > *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > > days of thy life. > > > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > > judgmental of > > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good me, > > and doesn't benefit others either. > > > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations > require *a lot* of context to be > useful, Greg -- as a standalone > prescription, they fall down -- > *hard.* > > > http://come.to/realization > http://www.atman.net/realization > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm > > ______________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa. ZERO. Rates as low as 0 > percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR, online balance transfers, > Rewards Points, no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and > get the credit you deserve. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 Hello Bruce: As I work on my 'intro' I realize just how much my life does give 'context' to the commandments of self-esteem. While they may not be a stand-alone prescription I do think that had I had some of them in place 25 years ago.....well, maybe I've learned a lot but I'm not convinced that I couldn't have learned something through having more joy in my life. The phrase 'stand alone prescription' has stayed with me throughout the day and I wonder if there is such a piece of wisdom. For where I am right now the 'prescription' to take the time to sit, breathe and observe what is happening will bring me back to awareness so I would say that is a stand-alone prescription. It occurs to me that this tacit is not so far removed from a child being told to pray but many misplace that bit of wisdom by the time adulthood is reached. Once a person is firmly on a conscious path of spiritual growth there probably are many prescriptions that will do....however, the 10 commandments of self-esteem are geared towards a more psychological approach to life. Perhaps 'prescriptions' can 'stand-alone' only within a specific framework or stage of life? I would be interested in knowing if you have any further thoughts to share on appropriate 'stand-alones'. Namaste, Linda > Perhaps these are coming from a more female perspective > because #'s 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,10 certainly have shaped much of my life > and the lives of many other women that I know. I don't notice any particular gender bias, but maybe that reflects my gender bias. :-) I voiced my misgivings about them as a standalone prescription, if some of them work well for you, perhaps your life and those of "many other women" have provided the appropriate context -- what do you think? > > Linda > Thanks for your comments. Much love -- Bruce > > > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > > feel bad about thyself. > > That'd make a lot folks into > instant hermits, don't you > agree? Not saying that's > necessarily a bad thing, of > course.... > > > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > > crazy behavior. > > Hmm, that sort of closes off > any sort of counseling as a > vocation, doesn't it? > > > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > > dysfunctional than thyself. > > ..assuming that one is functional > enough to make a useful > comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). > > Bodies are often no more > trustworthy than minds. > Trust me on that....:-) > > > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > > feelings. > > This person has obviously > never had to find and keep > gainful employment in a > typical commercial or > institutional setting. > > > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > > thy brethren. > > It is not right for me to > eat meat, can I now tell > my neighbors to quit their > barbeques next summer? > > > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. > > As far as I can tell, there > is no limit to capacity, nor > does anyone "own" it! > > > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. > > The jails and psych wards > are brimming with people who > feel this way, no? > > > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. > > *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > > days of thy life. > > > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > > judgmental of > > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good me, > > and doesn't benefit others either. > > > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations > require *a lot* of context to be > useful, Greg -- as a standalone > prescription, they fall down -- > *hard.* > > > http://come.to/realization > http://www.atman.net/realization > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm > http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm > > ______________ > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa. ZERO. Rates as low as 0 > percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR, online balance transfers, > Rewards Points, no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and > get the credit you deserve. 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For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa. Rates as low as 2.9 percent Intro or 9.9 percent Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards credit you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at <a href=" http://clickme./ad/NextcardCreative2 ">Click Here</a> ------ All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. 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Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:32:10 -0500 "Linda Callanan" <shastra writes: > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hello Bruce: > > As I work on my 'intro' I realize just how much my life does give > 'context' > to the commandments of self-esteem. While they may not be a > stand-alone > prescription I do think that had I had some of them in place 25 years > ago.....well, maybe I've learned a lot but I'm not convinced that I > couldn't have learned something through having more joy in my life. Hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it? :-) > > The phrase 'stand alone prescription' has stayed with me throughout > the day and I wonder if there is such a piece of wisdom. Me too! > For where I am right now > the 'prescription' to take the time to sit, breathe and observe what > is happening will bring me back to awareness so I would say that is a > stand-alone prescription. Yeah, the ones that work stand-alone tend to be very simple, with little or nothing in the way of situational qualifiers. > It occurs to me that this tacit is not so far > removed from a child being told to pray but many misplace that bit > of wisdom by the time adulthood is reached. Unfortunately, for many a child, "being told to pray" is an unnatural imposition replete with adult assumptions -- foremost among them for the childish edition of yours truly was the association with the stern, often wrathful God of the Torah. This "King Of The Universe" found Moses himself unworthy to cross into Canaan, what else would a child pray for to such an entity other than the mercy denied to the nominal author of the Torah itself! How far such tightly focused self- interest seems from the surrender of "take the time to sit, breathe and observe what is happening!" I wish my religious school instructors had told me something that simple and implication-free! > > Once a person is firmly on a conscious path of spiritual growth there > probably are many prescriptions that will do....however, the 10 > commandments > of self-esteem are geared towards a more psychological approach to > life. Perhaps 'prescriptions' can 'stand-alone' only within a specific > framework or stage of life? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at when I cited the need for "context" for the vast majority of prescriptives. > > I would be interested in knowing if you have any further thoughts to > share on appropriate 'stand-alones'. Done -- thanks for your interest, Linda. > > Namaste, > Linda > Much love -- Bruce > > > > > Perhaps these are coming from a more female perspective > > because #'s 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,10 certainly have shaped much of my life > > and the lives of many other women that I know. > > I don't notice any particular > gender bias, but maybe that > reflects my gender bias. :-) > > I voiced my misgivings > about them as a standalone > prescription, if some of them > work well for you, perhaps > your life and those of "many > other women" have provided > the appropriate context -- > what do you think? > > > > Linda > > > Thanks for your comments. > > Much love -- Bruce > > > > > > > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > > > feel bad about thyself. > > > > That'd make a lot folks into > > instant hermits, don't you > > agree? Not saying that's > > necessarily a bad thing, of > > course.... > > > > > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > > > crazy behavior. > > > > Hmm, that sort of closes off > > any sort of counseling as a > > vocation, doesn't it? > > > > > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > > > dysfunctional than thyself. > > > > ..assuming that one is functional > > enough to make a useful > > comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > > > > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > > > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). > > > > Bodies are often no more > > trustworthy than minds. > > Trust me on that....:-) > > > > > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > > > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > > > feelings. > > > > This person has obviously > > never had to find and keep > > gainful employment in a > > typical commercial or > > institutional setting. > > > > > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > > > thy brethren. > > > > It is not right for me to > > eat meat, can I now tell > > my neighbors to quit their > > barbeques next summer? > > > > > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. > > > > As far as I can tell, there > > is no limit to capacity, nor > > does anyone "own" it! > > > > > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. > > > > The jails and psych wards > > are brimming with people who > > feel this way, no? > > > > > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. > > > > *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > > > > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > > > days of thy life. > > > > > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > > > judgmental of > > > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good > me, > > > and doesn't benefit others either. > > > > > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations > > require *a lot* of context to be > > useful, Greg -- as a standalone > > prescription, they fall down -- > > *hard.* > > http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2000 Report Share Posted February 13, 2000 On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:32:10 -0500 "Linda Callanan" <shastra writes: > "Linda Callanan" <shastra > > Hello Bruce: > > As I work on my 'intro' I realize just how much my life does give > 'context' > to the commandments of self-esteem. While they may not be a > stand-alone > prescription I do think that had I had some of them in place 25 years > ago.....well, maybe I've learned a lot but I'm not convinced that I > couldn't have learned something through having more joy in my life. Hindsight is always 20-20, isn't it? :-) > > The phrase 'stand alone prescription' has stayed with me throughout > the day and I wonder if there is such a piece of wisdom. Me too! > For where I am right now > the 'prescription' to take the time to sit, breathe and observe what > is happening will bring me back to awareness so I would say that is a > stand-alone prescription. Yeah, the ones that work stand-alone tend to be very simple, with little or nothing in the way of situational qualifiers. > It occurs to me that this tacit is not so far > removed from a child being told to pray but many misplace that bit > of wisdom by the time adulthood is reached. Unfortunately, for many a child, "being told to pray" is an unnatural imposition replete with adult assumptions -- foremost among them for the childish edition of yours truly was the association with the stern, often wrathful God of the Torah. This "King Of The Universe" found Moses himself unworthy to cross into Canaan, what else would a child pray for to such an entity other than the mercy denied to the nominal author of the Torah itself! How far such tightly focused self- interest seems from the surrender of "take the time to sit, breathe and observe what is happening!" I wish my religious school instructors had told me something that simple and implication-free! > > Once a person is firmly on a conscious path of spiritual growth there > probably are many prescriptions that will do....however, the 10 > commandments > of self-esteem are geared towards a more psychological approach to > life. Perhaps 'prescriptions' can 'stand-alone' only within a specific > framework or stage of life? Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at when I cited the need for "context" with the vast majority of behavioral prescriptives. > > I would be interested in knowing if you have any further thoughts to > share on appropriate 'stand-alones'. Done -- thanks for your interest, Linda. > > Namaste, > Linda > Much love -- Bruce > > > > > Perhaps these are coming from a more female perspective > > because #'s 1, 2, 3, 5, 7,10 certainly have shaped much of my life > > and the lives of many other women that I know. > > I don't notice any particular > gender bias, but maybe that > reflects my gender bias. :-) > > I voiced my misgivings > about them as a standalone > prescription, if some of them > work well for you, perhaps > your life and those of "many > other women" have provided > the appropriate context -- > what do you think? > > > > Linda > > > Thanks for your comments. > > Much love -- Bruce > > > > > > > > I. Thou shalt not consort with people who make thee > > > feel bad about thyself. > > > > That'd make a lot folks into > > instant hermits, don't you > > agree? Not saying that's > > necessarily a bad thing, of > > course.... > > > > > > II. Thou shalt cease trying to make sense out of > > > crazy behavior. > > > > Hmm, that sort of closes off > > any sort of counseling as a > > vocation, doesn't it? > > > > > > III. Thou shalt not keep company with those more > > > dysfunctional than thyself. > > > > ..assuming that one is functional > > enough to make a useful > > comparison of dysfunctionalities. > > > > > > IV. Trust thy body all the days of thy life > > > (thy mind doth fornicate with thee). > > > > Bodies are often no more > > trustworthy than minds. > > Trust me on that....:-) > > > > > > V. Thou hast permission at all times to say "no," > > > to change thy mind, and to express thy true > > > feelings. > > > > This person has obviously > > never had to find and keep > > gainful employment in a > > typical commercial or > > institutional setting. > > > > > > VI. What is not right for thee is not right for > > > thy brethren. > > > > It is not right for me to > > eat meat, can I now tell > > my neighbors to quit their > > barbeques next summer? > > > > > > VII. Thou shalt not give beyond thine own capacity. > > > > As far as I can tell, there > > is no limit to capacity, nor > > does anyone "own" it! > > > > > > VIII. What thy brethren think of thee mattereth naught. > > > > The jails and psych wards > > are brimming with people who > > feel this way, no? > > > > > > IX. Wherever thou art, therein also is the party. > > > > *Now* we're talkin'! :-) > > > > > > X. Thou shalt sing thine own praises all the > > > days of thy life. > > > > > > Number (VI) takes a bit of interpretation. She means that > > > judgmental of > > > myself, being a martyr, giving beyond my capacity, is not good > me, > > > and doesn't benefit others either. > > > > > IMO Dr. Cardinal's recommendations > > require *a lot* of context to be > > useful, Greg -- as a standalone > > prescription, they fall down -- > > *hard.* > > http://come.to/realization http://www.atman.net/realization http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucemrg.htm http://www.users.uniserve.com/~samuel/brucsong.htm ______________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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