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At 02:44 AM 2/14/00 -0600, you wrote:

>John Heaton <Cttleman

>

>Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:24:18 -0500

> "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

>Re: Tony/thought

>

>

>>Tony: [snip] Thought will not destroy itself,

>>ultimately it shrinks

>>from destruction. So something other than

>>intellectualising is obviously necessary.

>

>Dan - Thanks, Tony for sharing your thoughts about

> the ending of thought. While worthwhile

> to look into this topic, if we rely

> on thought to look at thought, the games

> of thought will be perpetuated. So we

> open to something else - and that something

> else has no name.

>

> Tony, thought isn't merely intellectualizing,

> that's only one of myriad manifestations.

> Thought is involved in the very structuring

> of the cells of the human body.

>

><snip>

>

>Hi Dan

>

> Would you care/or not to expand on thought and structuring

>of human cells?

>

>John

 

Thought is the "structuring" of experience. Thought

gives form, relationship, association to experience.

The physical world doesn't exist apart from awareness.

The inside/outside dichotomy ultimately is unreal.

Thought structures "outside" and "inside" -- these

are actually a thought-formed relationship.

Cells are no less structured by thought than are

electric impulses in the brain. In fact, the

latter would never have evolved without the

establishment of communication by cells that

developed brains and electrochemical impulses

travelling between cells. The thought that

structures the "physical" universe is a

"different level" of thought than the

biochemical brain impulses we usually define

as the only thought occurring. The thought

that structures the physical world was

called "Logos" by the ancients.

 

Love,

Dan

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Dan Berkow, PhD <berkowd

< >

Monday, February 14, 2000 5:09 PM

Re: John H./thought

 

>"Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

>

>At 02:44 AM 2/14/00 -0600, you wrote:

>>John Heaton <Cttleman

>>

>>Sat, 12 Feb 2000 18:24:18 -0500

>> "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

>>Re: Tony/thought

>>

>>

>>>Tony: [snip] Thought will not destroy itself,

>>>ultimately it shrinks

>>>from destruction. So something other than

>>>intellectualising is obviously necessary.

>>

>>Dan - Thanks, Tony for sharing your thoughts about

>> the ending of thought. While worthwhile

>> to look into this topic, if we rely

>> on thought to look at thought, the games

>> of thought will be perpetuated. So we

>> open to something else - and that something

>> else has no name.

>>

>> Tony, thought isn't merely intellectualizing,

>> that's only one of myriad manifestations.

>> Thought is involved in the very structuring

>> of the cells of the human body.

>>

>><snip>

>>

>>Hi Dan

>>

>> Would you care/or not to expand on thought and structuring

>>of human cells?

>>

>>John

>

>Thought is the "structuring" of experience. Thought

>gives form, relationship, association to experience.

>The physical world doesn't exist apart from awareness.

>The inside/outside dichotomy ultimately is unreal.

>Thought structures "outside" and "inside" -- these

>are actually a thought-formed relationship.

>Cells are no less structured by thought than are

>electric impulses in the brain. In fact, the

>latter would never have evolved without the

>establishment of communication by cells that

>developed brains and electrochemical impulses

>travelling between cells. The thought that

>structures the "physical" universe is a

>"different level" of thought than the

>biochemical brain impulses we usually define

>as the only thought occurring. The thought

>that structures the physical world was

>called "Logos" by the ancients.

>

>Love,

>Dan

>

>

How beautifully expressed, Dan. Thanks, all your posts truly nurture me.. it

just seems silly to say so every time.

With love,

Glo

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> A very complete answer - Thank you Dan.

>

> Once on another list, far far away, there was an in

>depth discussion on Logos and memes. It was fascinating to read

>but way over this ones head.

>

>Have a truly wonderful day Dan!

>

>John

 

Logos is over all our heads.

It is the Word that shines from

the single eye. Odin, the

Norse supreme diety, had one eye,

and two ravens named

Thought and Memory :-).

 

Thank you for your warm words, John.

May your day be radiant.

 

Love,

Dan

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