Guest guest Posted February 14, 2000 Report Share Posted February 14, 2000 Namaste All, First of all it seems that 'all', is actually mind. Sakti is mind, Mahat is mind, so really apart from individual thoughts, all is thought. The projected appearance of Saguna Brahman. In the first place all is a dream and an illusion , and we are operating at two levels, relative and absolute. Also there are the constituents of the dream to consider. If we take Einstein and relativity etc, then physically there is no time, beyond the speed of light. (In fact quarks and sub-atomic particles travel back in time.) This is Kala or time, and God is Kala or Time. So Time itself is an illusion and doesn't exist really. It is all a dream of the concept "God". So in this dream everything is really happening at the same time, it is just the play of consciousness that gives the illusion of progression and time. It is like lives, they are like a cartwheel and the lives are the spokes. Consciousness is the hub, and we concentrate consciousness on one spoke at a time, hence lives, but they all happen at once! However because consciousness has become associated with the illusion it has to free itself with free will. This entails taking responsibility for our actions , as if we were making things happen. It is said that we see our future life before taking birth, so everything that is going to happen has happened or rather is happening. So at birth a veil is drawn over our consciousness, so to speak and then we have to literally, "Act out ", the drama, as if we are making decisions , that effect a really non-existent future. So in fact when we ponder over a decision and them make it, that was the decision we had already made anyway. There was just the illusion that we were making it, so that we could take responsibility for it and learn. Learn what? Learn that we are part of a dream! So the illusion of experiencing causes pain etc and eventually the "Consciousness Realises this and wakes up------Liberated". However as Sankara says it is real enough whilst you are in it. This is where karma comes into play for at this level of relativity there is the law of "action and reaction ", that keeps the illusion going so to speak. Until you realise you are God and it is all a dream. "Understand there is no free will for individuals. They are constrained by various limitations. God alone has total free will. All others are bound in one way or another. Whatever one's efforts ,the ultimate outcome lies with Providence. Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm http://members.zoom.com/aoclery/escapesai1.htm ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real, THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light, MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality. OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace. Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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