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That's a remarkable story, tg.

It's very useful to me in terms

of understanding how people learn.

 

It's also an excellent pointer

about how providing receptive space

can sometimes be more powerful

than providing substance.

 

Thank you much.

 

Love,

Dan

 

At 09:05 AM 2/17/00 -0500, you wrote:

>LeTeegee

>

>In a message dated 02/17/2000 7:40:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

>hluthar writes:

>

>> So I agree with brother Jerry. We should be at ease saying whatever we

want

>> when whatever we say points to everything being easy. When everything

seems

>hard and all we can talk about is how hard everything is for everyone,

>> including enlightenment, then what is the point of saying anything.

>

>Sometimes saying 'everything is hard' is said by myself, with great ease.

>Seeing there are differences in ourselves and the world we perceive is

>obvious and cannot be denied - our thoughts are not neutral. Knowing they

>are meaningless, no matter what is said, heard, read, etc., is meaningful to

>me.

>

>What is the point of saying anything then? If I say 'everything is hard' to

>a group on a list, for instance, then they may not think I *got* it. Who

>cares? I don't got anything anyway.

>

>My ex was very rude to me one day, screaming with 'that tone of voice' he

>always used to everyone, over a minor incident. I wanted to say ''that is

>rude... there is a much kinder way of speaking to another" and go into a

>dialogue about speaking kindly. Instead, I opted to step back for a moment,

>realizing I already knew this, and I didn't need to teach it to myself in

>order to strengthen my own ideas. I opted instead to let him teach me, to

>strengthen his own ideas of what he wanted in his life. About five minutes

>later, 'on cue', I screamed at him very rudely about some dumb thing.

>

>He immediately sat me down and explained to me in such an easy and gentle

way

>'that there is a much kinder way of speaking to someone." LOL! I said

>''huh? I don't understand." So he explained it again in greater depth.

I

>told him I still didn't get what he was saying. He explained it even

>further. I really went over the edge, when I told him that I REALLLLY

>wanted to *get* what he was saying... could he explain it one more time!

>And he did!

>

>He never spoke to anyone rudely again after that.

>

>Much Love,

>xxxtg

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