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Dear Dharma,

 

This is a re-posting. Not sure the first attempt was successful.

 

Dear Dharma,

 

Thank you for your kind posting.

 

I am reluctant to call anyone's posting just intellectual argumentation.

But I agree with you whereever intellectualism appears in these

discussions, it turns me off like a cold tap. I have no defence against it.

I understand all the arguments very well, but it is as though they touch me

on a level where I find little or no identification.

 

I think one could meaningfully distinguish between truth and fact. All the

high things the intellectual can explain may be absolutely true. But then

there is the fact of ordinary human living where there is struggle, pain,

joy and the whole range of limited and fragmented human responses to

everyday challenges. These are the things we are generally concerned with.

And despite the high philosophies of the great thinkers, they too live in

this world where things generally appear less than whole, non-dual and

integrated.

 

So I listen with open ears and see with open eyes what they say and how

things are described as though they are 'That', and wonder sometimes how

they really felt today, and how true all the Truths which they speak about

so elequently, are to them in every living moment.

 

Truth, non-duality etc are a little high for me to talk about. I much more

prefer to start from where we are, and see if we can help one another along

this rather arduous path of self-discovery. Then we share that which we

ARE, and not that which we presume ultimate reality to be.

 

In love,

 

Moller

 

Dharma <fisher1

J M de la Rouviere <moller

22 February 2000 02:05

Re: Moller/what "Dan" says about silence

 

>Hi Moller,

>

>A beautiful attempt to cut through language/thinking problems and establish

>a basis for meaningful discussion. I appreciate your effort, but I don't

>think you can get through to everyone here. It's been tried before...

>over and over... :))) Some people just enjoy big intellectual arguments...

>But it's a big list, and there's room for all kinds of people. :) I

>usually avoid these kinds of discussions completely... they all sound

>alike after a while. Same old same old... :)

>

>Thanks anyway for the clear light. :)

>

>Love,

>Dharma

>

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