Guest guest Posted February 25, 2000 Report Share Posted February 25, 2000 Joyce Short wrote: > "Joyce Short" <insight > > How can there be "two" in nonduality - why not see "false identity" as an > "expression" of eternal beingness. "On seeing the face of a long absent > friend" - the face of the long absent friend is "recognized." Perhaps this > means the Recognition of all that arises in awareness as nothing other than > this awareness - and thus one is able to truly welcome all that arises, > without exception, in the bright, empty feild of awareness. The temple > bell and emptiness within the bell are mutually interdependent. > > Joyce > Thanks Joyce! That is so totally cool! :-). Love Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2000 Report Share Posted February 27, 2000 Dear Dan, My very sincere apology for not answering your very beautiful reply to one of my previous postings. The one section is so exquisitely explained, that I want to quote it again. You said: D: Enjoying appreciatively the clarity of the above statement. > The Unknown One is fully present without appearing. Embededness > in the known constitutes "false identity/identities" -- > an ongoing series of attempts to formulate and maintain a position, > a process of attempted self-perceptions trying to establish > continuity that isn't there. In truth, there is no identifiable > subject as perceiver. The only "perceiver" is everywhere present in > the entire field of perception, fully Unknown knowingness. > ~ The last sentence is very profound, because it cuts through any sense of dualistic 'perception'. Things do not appear to us because we perceive them, but simply because they are self-evident. The appearance and the 'awareness' of such an appearance is the same. A kind of joint-phenomenon. Simply whole. Dan: >>> The "true subject" is no-subject, is omnipresent and nonlocal. > All apparent objects then arise and depart without anything arising > or departing, in and as awareness, with no identifiable subject > anywhere .. The false is seen as false only now, only as nonembededness > is experientially truth. ~ Again very, very beautiful! Music to my ears. Please explain what you mean by the the last sentence referring to non-embededness. Thank you for this posting Dan. In love and appreciation, Moller. Dan Berkow, PhD <berkowd < > 25 February 2000 07:20 Re: self-investigation >"Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd > >>Moller: [snip] But seeing, when directed from the >>fragmented disposition of I -consciousness, can only present two. The >>observer and the observed. False identity indicates a disposition of being >>totally identified with duality and as such cannot be whole. The moment >>false identity is seen by wholeness for what it is, the latter falls away >>and only wholeness is the case. J. Krishnamurti has said: The seeing of the >>false, IS the truth. Perhaps this is what he meant. the known > self, dying to identification with emotions driving survival of > body-mind-self, dying to self-esteem associated with attempts at > continuity of self-perceived existence. > > Love, > Dan > > > >------ >Shabang!com is the place to get your FREE eStore, Absolutely FREE >Forever. If you have any desires to sell your products or services >online, or you want to expand your customer base for FREE, Come check >out Shabang!com FREE eStores! >http://click./1/1299/2/_/520931/_/951499188/ >------ > >// > >All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > >To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 JM>~ The last sentence is very profound, because it cuts through any sense of dualistic 'perception'. Things do not appear to us because we perceive them, but simply because they are self-evident. The appearance and the 'awareness' of such an appearance is the same. A kind of joint-phenomenon. Simply whole. geovani>...and maybe one could even say: "There is no such thing as awareness". Of course I am reinforcing the above statement, but one must be attentive to the subtle idea of an awareness that is not separate from events - but is still conceived as extant parameter per se. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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