Guest guest Posted February 27, 2000 Report Share Posted February 27, 2000 Dear Harsha, You said: .. Maybe Seeing is Being when there is no Seer. ~ This is very beautiful, Harsha (ji). Not a lightweight yourself. And on top of it a kind Heart. In gratitude and love, Moller Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar) <hluthar < > 26 February 2000 02:49 Seeing/Being/self-investigation >"Harsha (Dr. Harsh K. Luthar)" <hluthar > >J M de la Rouviere wrote: > >> J M de la Rouviere <moller >> >> Dear Joyce, >> >> I think you are somewhat mixing your categories here. >> >> 'False identity' is the position prior to the 'realisation' of what you have >> referred to as the condition of 'mutually interdependent' arising, where the >> content of consciousness is not separate from consciousness itself. That >> is, the sound and the silence is one joint phenomenon and do not arise >> sequencially. >> >> So false identity as a reality of living experience cannot be the case in >> such a condition of undivided being. The two are mutually exclusive. And >> while false identity is the case, they are indeed two, not one. Only from >> the point of view (or as my friend Dan might have qualified such a >> statement,' from the 'non-point of view') of wholeness can forms of >> fragmentation be seen to be whole. But seeing, when directed from the >> fragmented disposition of I -consciousness, can only present two. The >> observer and the observed. False identity indicates a disposition of being >> totally identified with duality and as such cannot be whole. The moment >> false identity is seen by wholeness for what it is, the latter falls away >> and only wholeness is the case. J. Krishnamurti has said: The seeing of the >> false, IS the truth. Perhaps this is what he meant. >> >> Love, >> >> Moller >> > >I don't know what Krishnamuriti meant Moller, but I love how you put it. It is hard to say if seeing of the false Is the Truth. It might be that or a part of that or perhaps a step to the Truth. It is not clear how one definitively take a step to the Truth One Is. Sometimes I think there is no Seeing the Truth because there is only Being the Truth. Probably there is something between Seeing and Being which preserves the identity or a seer. > >Love >Harsha > > >------ >Get what you deserve with NextCard Visa! ZERO! Rates as low as 0.0% >Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR, online balance transfers, Rewards Points, >no hidden fees, and much more! Get NextCard today and get the credit >you deserve! Apply now! Get your NextCard Visa at: >http://click./1/914/2/_/520931/_/951526130/ >------ > >// > >All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > >To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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