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>>>>> D: The "true subject" is no-subject, is omnipresent and nonlocal.

>>> All apparent objects then arise and depart without anything arising

>>> or departing, in and as awareness, with no identifiable subject

>>> anywhere

 

Question: by "no-subject, omnipresent and nonlocal" do you mean awareness?

which is definately an interesting subject (really object) for contemplation

but I can't see how in contemplation you can have a "true" subject and a

"false" one.

>>.

"The false is seen as false only now, only as nonembededness

>>> is experientially truth."

 

Question: Isnt this "false" now "identifiable - I mean, you just

identified something as "false" as other than "true" and thus dual,

- seems like an object of a subject to me....with all sorts of judgments

being made about it. Is this "falseness" separate from awareness? You make

this sound rather solid. "Who" is experiencing truth as "nonembeddedness?"

 

"Conditions attach not?" You mean, everything is impermanent?

 

With respect, this does sound pretty but it also sounds like rhetoric. Sort

of Marharshi-like and Nisargadatta-ish. Im curious, what does this have to

do with self-investigation for you? How did you arrive at this conclusion

in your own personal process? The actual questions asked would be

interesting.

 

Do you believe that some events can be separate from the Whole and

therefore not in harmnoy with it? - that the Eternal is somehow beyond this

world? I guess Ill have to qualify that and ask about your world not this

world.

 

Joyce

 

>>~ Again very, very beautiful! Music to my ears. Please explain what you

>>mean by the the last sentence referring to non-embededness.

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> D: Wonderful to experience such resonation. As words spoken reverberate,

> each echo, from "here" to "there," from "there" to "here"

endlessly

> reveals a place that is not a place. As far as nonembededness,

> that's only when conditions attach not, when Originally Unbounded,

> beyond being or nonbeing -- in fact, there is no falseness Here, as

> nothing false can be perceived... the false is "seen as false" because

> it pertains not, its conditions are not, and perception of it simply

> isn't... as for what it is that pertains not Here, one might say

> it is memory taken as reality, past taken as present, known taken

> as true that does not pertain Here... the sphere of reality constructed

> by the world is shattered Here, and yet the world continues ...

> Never to be known to the world's sensorily-based way of knowing, and

> yet touching the senses totally each moment. Unknown to the senses,

> including thought, yet animating the senses fully.

> Love,

> Dan

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> All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

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> back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

> the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

> Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is

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