Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 In a message dated 02/28/2000 9:35:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, berkowd writes: > Any understanding or awareness that is more inclusive than > a previous level, will itself be surpassed. However, the ultimate > understanding has nothing beyond it. It is the beyond itself. > Because nothing is above it, nothing is below it, > either. Nothing above me, nothing below me, nothing beside me, > nothing in front of me, nothing behind me. The only reason > this is called "ultimate awareness" and similar terms > is because people are lost in higher understandings > and lower understandings. It's too simple to be grasped; > once stated it becomes a lie, > and as soon as it's followed, it's missed. Good Morning Dan... Always great to read your words of wisdom along with my morning cuppa coffee. This sounds like a great riddle that would be impossible to give an answer to. In my own search for truth, once I found what I thought was truth, I kept open-minded. I realized at one point there was no truth. That was a mind-blower in itself, which really pissed me off. My irkedness (is that a word to use so early in the morning?? Sounds good... it'll stay) was a red flag that I was certain, so I opened my mind yet to more of this no-truth-truth. Still waiting on an answer since I know if I come up with a really good one, it's only good for a couple of days pass. Reminds me of Disney World. I'm just here for the ride, fun, thrills, and illusions, since I can't remember where I parked my car anyway. Much Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 Any understanding or awareness that is more inclusive than a previous level, will itself be surpassed. However, the ultimate understanding has nothing beyond it. It is the beyond itself. Because nothing is above it, nothing is below it, either. Nothing above me, nothing below me, nothing beside me, nothing in front of me, nothing behind me. The only reason this is called "ultimate awareness" and similar terms is because people are lost in higher understandings and lower understandings. It's too simple to be grasped; once stated it becomes a lie, and as soon as it's followed, it's missed. Love, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 This sounds like a great riddle that would be impossible to give an answer to. In my own search for truth, once I found what I thought was truth, I kept open-minded. I realized at one point there was no truth. That was a mind-blower in itself, which really pissed me off. My irkedness (is that a word to use so early in the morning?? Sounds good... it'll stay) was a red flag that I was certain, so I opened my mind yet to more of this no-truth-truth. Still waiting on an answer since I know if I come up with a really good one, it's only good for a couple of days pass. Reminds me of Disney World. I'm just here for the ride, fun, thrills, and illusions, since I can't remember where I parked my car anyway. Much Love, xxxtg geovani> This is because thoughts are - and must be perceived as such - alike any other events in this non-dimensional field. The moment thought slips back to its safe "observer mode" as "me", the illusion show is back , with all its state of art multimidia tecnology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 "Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd > > > Any understanding or awareness that is more inclusive than > a previous level, will itself be surpassed. However, the ultimate > understanding has nothing beyond it. It is the beyond itself. > Because nothing is above it, nothing is below it, > either. Nothing above me, nothing below me, nothing beside me, > nothing in front of me, nothing behind me. The only reason > this is called "ultimate awareness" and similar terms > is because people are lost in higher understandings > and lower understandings. It's too simple to be grasped; > once stated it becomes a lie, > and as soon as it's followed, it's missed. > > Love, > Dan > P.S. '....and if you continue this simple practice every day, you will obtain some wonderful power. Before you attain it, it is something wonderful, but after you attain it, it is nothing special." > > ------ > @Backup-The Easiest Way to Protect and Access your files. > Automatic backups and off-site storage of your critical data. Install > your FREE trial today and have a chance to WIN a digital camera! > > http://click./1/1830/2/_/520931/_/951748460/ > ------ > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside > back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than > the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of > Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is > Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality > of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, > spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from > the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your > subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2000 Report Share Posted February 28, 2000 > Still waiting on an answer since I know if I come up with a really good one, > it's only good for a couple of days pass. Reminds me of Disney World. I'm > just here for the ride, fun, thrills, and illusions, since I can't remember > where I parked my car anyway. > > Much Love, > xxxtg Section G, Row 8....... right next to the green and white travel trailer. Hi ho, hi ho! Melody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2000 Report Share Posted February 29, 2000 In a message dated 02/29/2000 6:51:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, umbada writes: Good Morning Jerry! > To me, the best part of Disneyland was always the tram ride > from your car to the entrance. Because it was the moment 'in > between', neither here nor there, you weren't in your car > anymore and you weren't in Disneyland yet. It was such an exciting ride in itself, and my favorite too! So futuristic to me. >It was in > between. It wasn't yin or yang. It was the nondual space. > The place from which all existence arises. A place that > required no reaction, no judgment. You didn't have to like > or dislike the tram. You only had to 'be' there. You could > contemplate the world that was left and the world that was > coming, but you were in neither of them. Wonderful way of looking at this! The ride from the parking lot to Disney was different than the ride back to the parking lot. Lots of exciting 'can't wait to get there!' chatter on the way there... quietness and contemplation, like you said, on the way back. Could be exhaustion too. LOL Neither of them > existed. It was a taste of pure reality. A taste one could > take with them on every ride in Disneyland or on the ride > back home. Really, when you think about it, the tram is the > most exciting ride, and, very much like life, the one > everyone ignores, misses the significance of, is afraid to > admit they like the best, or is afraid to try to understand. > > Did you know that used to go to Disneyland alone, quite > often, having grown up in Los Angeles? What an education. I > find I have no need to do that anymore. I didn't know that. I assumed you were a born Canadian. Having grown up in Disney World's hometown, it was fasinating to watch how it changed the life of the small quaint cowboy town I live in. It now is filled with every major hotel, restaurants, and attractions. Our two lane streets are now major highways to all the 'worlds'. I loved going to Disney, but find the last few years, it just isn't worth going to anymore. The lines, the overcrowding, the heat, take the magic away from what it used to be. Even Joshua doesn't like going like he used to. The illusion lost its magic. Or maybe I'm too grownup these days. :-) I'd rather spend a day with friends, or get lost in a magical movie for a couple of hours. Speaking of movies, I recently read on the NDS website what you said about American Beauty.... still waiting on it to come out on video (in March), and looking forward to it. Would you give me your take on it? You had said it had a quality of non-dualism to it, if I recall rightly. I'd like to watch it from your perspective. Love, xxxtg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2000 Report Share Posted February 29, 2000 In a message dated 02/28/2000 9:35:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, berkowd writes: Any understanding or awareness that is more inclusive than a previous level, will itself be surpassed. However, the ultimate understanding has nothing beyond it. It is the beyond itself. Because nothing is above it, nothing is below it, either. Nothing above me, nothing below me, nothing beside me, nothing in front of me, nothing behind me. The only reason this is called "ultimate awareness" and similar terms is because people are lost in higher understandings and lower understandings. It's too simple to be grasped; once stated it becomes a lie, and as soon as it's followed, it's missed. Good Morning Dan... Always great to read your words of wisdom along with my morning cuppa coffee. This sounds like a great riddle that would be impossible to give an answer to. In my own search for truth, once I found what I thought was truth, I kept open-minded. I realized at one point there was no truth. That was a mind-blower in itself, which really pissed me off. My irkedness (is that a word to use so early in the morning?? Sounds good... it'll stay) was a red flag that I was certain, so I opened my mind yet to more of this no-truth-truth. Still waiting on an answer since I know if I come up with a really good one, it's only good for a couple of days pass. Reminds me of Disney World. I'm just here for the ride, fun, thrills, and illusions, since I can't remember where I parked my car anyway. Much Love, xxxtg Hi tg, To me, the best part of Disneyland was always the tram ride from your car to the entrance. Because it was the moment 'in between', neither here nor there, you weren't in your car anymore and you weren't in Disneyland yet. It was in between. It wasn't yin or yang. It was the nondual space. The place from which all existence arises. A place that required no reaction, no judgment. You didn't have to like or dislike the tram. You only had to 'be' there. You could contemplate the world that was left and the world that was coming, but you were in neither of them. Neither of them existed. It was a taste of pure reality. A taste one could take with them on every ride in Disneyland or on the ride back home. Really, when you think about it, the tram is the most exciting ride, and, very much like life, the one everyone ignores, misses the significance of, is afraid to admit they like the best, or is afraid to try to understand. Did you know that used to go to Disneyland alone, quite often, having grown up in Los Angeles? What an education. I find I have no need to do that anymore. Love, jerry _ NONDUALITY SALON WEBSITE http://www.nonduality.com http://welcome.to/nondualitysalon MAILING LIST //nondualitysalon HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE MAILING LIST //ndhighlights PHOTOS, GRAPHICS, ARTWORK, OTHER FILES NondualitySalon/ NONDUAL PEOPLE http://www.nonduality.com/morea.htm NONDUAL DELIGHTS http://www.nonduality.com/context.htm CHAT ROOM http://www.eScribe.com/religion/nondualitysalon/chat New to Chat? http://dragon.minopher.net.au/WebEd/protocol.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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