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> "geovani" <inandor

> And the brain itself is what Roger? Is it

> diferent from sense inputs? Through what chanel

> do we "perceive" the brain that would not be through

> the senses? No. There is not a "another" real world

> "out there". This assumption is the basic duality of man.

>

> regards

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> -geo-

 

How do you know that you think? Can thought or any sense observe thought? I

do not believe that it's correct to say "Ah, my nose perceives that I am

thinking ..." or "Ah, I taste or hear thought..."

 

So, What is it that sees thought?

 

There is something that sees thought. But it is not thought, not emotion,

not senses, not memory, it's not that little think down there between the

legs (footnote)... What is the distinction between that which sees, and that

which is seen? Can we get over the confusion between the two?

 

I'm not sure I follow your intent here Geo. Please clarify.

 

See ya monday,

 

Roger

 

Footnote: sent this card to a former friend recently: The cover has a

scientist in a lab coat looking with big magnifying glass at an x-ray of a

torso. The caption reads "we think it's this little thing right here between

the legs". Open up the card and it says "the search for man's brain

continues..."

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I See things like this Moller-

 

I say to my Son at 9 Months: Crawling off our

bed, landing directly on his forehead, big

bruise to Embarrass His Mother...

 

"you have to see the head and wood floor,

are Real, or you are not Here fully"

 

Being here, good or bad.

 

"your Choice is Here: then you can choose

to rearrange the immediate environment"

 

His Mother says...

'yea, like having a smoke free house',

as She walks outside for a drag off My cigarette. :-)

 

J M de la Rouviere wrote:

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> J M de la Rouviere <moller

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> Dear Roger/Greg,

>

> This discussion can really go somewhere.

 

<snipped, no need to repost conversation

each time:-)>

 

freeheart

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Dear Eric,

 

Your wrote:

>I say to my Son at 9 Months: Crawling off our

>bed, landing directly on his forehead, big

>bruise to Embarrass His Mother...

>

>"you have to see the head and wood floor,

>are Real, or you are not Here fully"

>

>Being here, good or bad.

>

>"your Choice is Here: then you can choose

>to rearrange the immediate environment"

>

> His Mother says...

>'yea, like having a smoke free house',

>as She walks outside for a drag off My cigarette. :-)

>

~~ My dear brother in the Dharma,

 

A friend of mine once said to me that it is one thing to have an inferiority

complex, but something different to find out you ARE in fact inferior.

 

I have always had the suspicion of myself that I am not very intelligent.

Now you go and expose my suspicion to make me realise that this is in fact

the case. No more idle suspicions. Just beautiful, unmitigated reality.

 

No, my friend, I do not understand what you are trying to say.

 

Please rewrite it in a kind of insight for Dummy's text. Perhaps I will get

your point.

 

Love,

Moller

 

 

 

>//

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>All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights,

perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside

back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness.

Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is

where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal

Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously

arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.

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> geovani

> Yes I will try. There is nothing that sees through!

> There is not an observer looking. There is not an awareness

> being aware. Thoughs, trees, rivers, stars, are all self existent.

> the understanding of this simple fact ......is the way out the basic

duality

> of man. Events, things, arrise in a non-dimensional field

> in a incomprehensible manner...like fire cracks....and fall back

> to nothingness. The smarter scientist is just a kid without understanding

> this. The content of perceptions ARE the perception itself.

>

> See you monday, then...

>

> -geo-

 

 

Is this experience or speculation?

 

Roger

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