Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 I cut this from the nonduality salon: If that is a fuzz paws, sorry. I really would like to know what we have to say here. I did start the thread. :-) =============================== Here I sit in the wastelands of Portland feeling like a lone little non-dualist. Thinking about going to the Living Enrichment Center 11 am services. Thinking about not going to the services. They talk about god there. The basic premise is that all 6 billion people on the planet are just manifestations of god. The vibration however, is separate. God is other, still, somehow. I sense this basic feeling of separateness in the good people worshipping there. As most of them come from the various christian sects - this makes sense. As for me - HAHAHAH and HOHOHO! I no longer believe in god. Jesus is/was not a saviour/messiah and buddha is/was not a lord. There is no thing that is divine or holy. There is no thing that is evil or corrupt. All is one. ALL IS BEAUTY. I am starting to realize that what we call god is merely a manifestation of mind. Samhadi is an emotional state brought on by meditation, happenstance, drugs, fasting or luck :-)- nothing more. Oh yes I experience the bliss. Somehow it does not seem like an end, more it seems like a means to something else. Me at the age of 15 staying up all night asking the universe (called it god then) why, Why, WHY! Why does anything exist at all? The answer was music and bliss flowing through me! :-) Driving along and hearing a voice telling me to 'be out of your body now' and exiting out of the top of my head, growing to about 50 feet tall. Realizing that I was not behind the wheel Reaching down to guide the car around the corner like it was a toy. Hearing the voice say, 'not bad, ok you can go back into your body now.' Me as a youngster of 20 something. Having dreams and visions - questing after the answer. Going to India to see the guru maharaji - self proclaimed lord of the universe - now just another 'divine' con artist. Ah India! Powers manifesting in me. Miracles abounding. More on this another time! HAHAHAH and HOHOHOHO! Me as a 50 something. Last year - mother dying - dead in April. Joining a chi kung study group with my best friend in May/June. Leaving that mini-cult in December! [-) Losing my friendship. Gaining my senses back. Seeking to know the ANSWER like my hair was on fire! Awakening! :-)Hearing voices and seeing visions. Knowing oneness, seeing duality! Awakening! Like a chick out of its shell. Like a tadpole dreaming. Like a caterpillar eating. What is next? So. Does anybody know of any non-dualist realizer satsangers here in the greater Portland, OR area? I sure could use some company! :-) HAHAHAHAH and HOHOHOHO! Peace - Michael ********************************* neo responded: > >>>I no longer believe in god.<<< As a quote from "City of Angels": "Some things are true if you believe in them or not." All Love, neo ********************************* I responded to neo! What is it then, neo? Allah Allah Akbhar? Yahweh? Krsna? Jesu Christu? We have to leave buddhism out. That path is the great athiestic realization of oneness! Gautama replied that there is no soul, no atman. To imply a soul is to imply separation. ;-) But is buddhism the answer? I dearly love the image of the laughing buddha! Perhaps god is like that capricious character on 'Star Trek'. You know the one - Q! Entire realities altered/created/destroyed with but the snap of a finger! Perhaps god is like stodgy old YHWH. Stumping around mountain tops carving the law on stone, burning bushes and riding about on pillars of fire. All the while dreaming up contracts for the chosen. Perhaps god is like Krishna. Our best friend who urges us onward. Live life with gusto, honor and determination. Fight the good fight and let Me sort out the rest. Perhaps god is the standing wave that all of creation rests upon. That would be rather like the great turtle of some native American cultures. No, neo, I no longer believe in god. To believe in god I have to see myself as separate from god. There is no god because god is everywhere. This is so beyond my understanding that I understand it completely! lazy 8 (where is that pesky infinity sign?) What was that voice that directed me out of my body? What was that power that moved the car? What is that who dares to say I AM THAT? What to do what to do! Enjoy! HAHAHAHAH and HOHOHOHO Peace - and Love - Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 >"Michael Read" <maread > >No, neo, I no longer believe in god. To believe in god I have to see >myself as separate from god. There is no god because god is >everywhere. This is so beyond my understanding that I understand it >completely! lazy 8 (where is that pesky infinity sign?) > Michael, I was just thinking today that God is a place holder that is useful until one is ready to really investigate what is what when you remove that place holder. Once when I was younger I helped build a cement foundation. We built wooden forms, poured the cement, let it harden, and removed the forms. All that wooden construction was taken away when it was no longer needed. God is a construction like those forms. But what is left after....ah............. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2000 Report Share Posted March 5, 2000 How sweet it is! This I like! The fortunate accident of me! I'm ready to really investigate. This is something to do! Thank you, David. I have been hearing this message a lot lately. Tis beneficial! :-) Peace - and Love - Michael , David Hodges <dhodges@r...> wrote: > >"Michael Read" <maread > > > >No, neo, I no longer believe in god. To believe in god I have to see > >myself as separate from god. There is no god because god is > >everywhere. This is so beyond my understanding that I understand it > >completely! lazy 8 (where is that pesky infinity sign?) > > > Michael, > I was just thinking today that God is a place holder that is useful until > one is ready to really investigate what is what when you remove that place > holder. > Once when I was younger I helped build a cement foundation. We built > wooden forms, poured the cement, let it harden, and removed the forms. All > that wooden construction was taken away when it was no longer needed. God > is a construction like those forms. But what is left after....ah............. > David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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