Guest guest Posted March 9, 2000 Report Share Posted March 9, 2000 > Hi Roger, > > Good opportunity for me to remind people that we have a What > is Nonduality? web page which I printed out today. 37 pages > worth of what nonduality is, from members of NDS past and > present, and others. Contributions are always welcome. > > http://www.nonduality.com/whatis.htm > > Jerry Thanks Jerry, NonDuality has absolutely nothing to do with realization !!!!!!!! People on this email list (NDS) fall into 2 groups: the realized and the non-realized. One might think that NonDuality is the "way", but this is absolutely not the case. For an unrealized person, NonDuality theory points to the highest truth, however, thoughts about nonDuality can be misleading, digressive, distracting, obstructive. Identification with thought/emotion is the barrior to realization. Therefore, thoughts about NonDuality are the barrior dressed up in different clothes. "Exchange unprofitable speculation for actual God Realization" [Yogananda from probably inaccurate memory] Realization is a particular stage, Osho describes it as level 4, Maharishi M. Yogi as level 5, Barry Long as level 4... Steiner, Gurdjieff, Aurobindo: all have similiar descriptions. Nonduality is a more advanced stage, Osho suggests it becomes a possibility at level 5, MMY at level 6-7, BL describes levels 5-7. (quotes available on request but I don't have the books handy now) NonDuality or Advaita Vedanta is the 6th System of Indian Philosophy. If you're unrealized the appropriate system is the 4th System of Indian Philosophy called Yoga. (not just Hatha yoga but all the other types & tantra too). If ya put the cart before the horse yer not going anywhere! MMY says something like: the actual experiential reality of NonDuality is entirely & totally & completely incomprehensible by the ordinary mind. So, if one is unrealized, it's just a pointing. The work to be done is to be still. "Stillness is the Way" [bL]. Drop intellectualization, drop thoughts, all thoughts, especially those about NonDuality ! Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2000 Report Share Posted March 9, 2000 Hi Roger, > NonDuality or Advaita Vedanta is the 6th System of Indian Philosophy. If > you're unrealized the appropriate system is the 4th System of Indian > Philosophy called Yoga. (not just Hatha yoga but all the other types & > tantra too). > > If ya put the cart before the horse yer not going anywhere! I just rejoined the list, and was debating whether to re-introduce myself. Now I've read this... and it seems perfectly true. So what am I doing here? Answers on a postcard please.... gill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2000 Report Share Posted March 9, 2000 Roger Isaacs wrote: > If ya put the cart before the horse yer not > going anywhere! Is this not the point? > MMY says something like: the actual > experiential reality of NonDuality is > entirely & totally & completely > incomprehensible by the ordinary mind. So, > if one is unrealized, it's just a pointing. > The work to be done is to be > still. "Stillness is the Way" [bL]. Drop > intellectualization, drop thoughts, > all thoughts, especially those about > NonDuality ! And what about dropping the habit of having something to drop? > Roger Antoine > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Same place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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