Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 In a message dated 03/10/2000 12:34:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, UnbrknCh8n writes: << People who suffer from schizophrenia or Bipolar Disorder (manic depression) almost always will need treatment for their entire life (and at the present time medication is the treatment of choice). >> I agree that some people validly suffer. But how many of these people are given scans such as PET scans to determine what they actually suffer from? For example, my mother blacked out while driving and went to see a psychiatrist, who instantly prescribed Prozac. My brother-in-law and I were aghast. We suggested first she at least go to the hospital for a nutritional analysis. (He's a surgeon and i studied bio and neurochem.) It turned out she is seriously Hypoglycemic. Medication masks the undercore nuggets of pain and trauma. These could be addressed far more effectively with such treatments as Dr. Tomatis Mozart methods. I would beg anyone going on treatment to seek alternative methods first. The medical industry is exceptionally well-funded by the pharmaceutical industry that makes a fortune on drugs. Another example, today, an anti-psychotic is prescribed to help people quit smoking. An anti-psychotic? It's absolutely outrageous. VERY little is known about the neurochemical pathways. Very little. When you take medication for symptoms you are playing guinea pig to people who honestly are watching the bottom line on Wall Street. Look. Look deeply. Look very deeply. Look at where the trail starts and ends. Please, we are creating solutions which allow mothers, fathers, teachers, educators, physicians, psychiatrists, and a host of other people the easy way out. It's much, much more difficult to meditate and spend twenty years in analysis. But in the end, what is not resolved in this lifetime may well come back more deeply in the next. With much love and patience to All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 > People who suffer from schizophrenia or Bipolar Disorder (manic > depression) almost always will need treatment for their entire life (and > at the present time medication is the treatment of choice). > >> >I agree that some people validly suffer. But how many of these >people are given scans such as PET scans to determine what they >actually suffer from? For example, my mother blacked out while >driving and went to see a psychiatrist, who instantly prescribed Prozac. Seems like a strange choice... why go to a psychiatrist after a black-out? >My brother-in-law and I were aghast. We suggested first she at >least go to the hospital for a nutritional analysis. (He's a surgeon >and i studied bio and neurochem.) It turned out she is seriously >Hypoglycemic. That's why it's important to find a good psychiatrist. Ask for references from people you trust. Ask around... find out something about the doctor before you go. Sometimes a local minister knows all about the local psychiatrists and their reputations. >Medication masks the undercore nuggets of pain and trauma. These >could be addressed far more effectively with such treatments as >Dr. Tomatis Mozart methods. I would beg anyone going on >treatment to seek alternative methods first. The medical industry >is exceptionally well-funded by the pharmaceutical industry that >makes a fortune on drugs. I'm sure you don't really mean to slander all psychiatrists. And I know you wouldn't want to keep someone who seriously needs medical help from getting it. A psychiatrist is also an M.D., and a good psychiatrist will explore the patient's physical condition and do his best to determine the cause of the problem. Some people really do have biochemical imbalances that are handled in a direct and efficient way with whatever pharmaceutical will correct the imbalance. Many people with bipolar depression (manic depression) are leading happy, healthy lives by just taking a supplement of the element lithium, which their bodies need. Nobody makes much money on lithium... it's an element like potassium. But twenty years of analysis wouldn't correct that same problem. Love, Dharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 In a message dated 03/10/2000 1:04:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, fisher1 writes: << A psychiatrist is also an M.D., and a good psychiatrist will explore the patient's physical condition and do his best to determine the cause of the problem. Some people really do have biochemical imbalances that are handled in a direct and efficient way with whatever pharmaceutical will correct the imbalance. >> Dharma, I agree there are times for medication. But they are exceptionally rare. I once had a psychiatrist prescribe prozac to a friend i was trying to help get sober. She took the prozac and drank, wrapped a car around a tree. I went by and invited him to come to an open AA meeting with me. He came. There were not less than 5 girls there he had given prozac to, it's given out like candy. I forget the name of the quit smoking drug, but it's now prescribed because they discovered a side effect was that people smoked less when on it. They pulled it off the market over ten years ago because it had bad side effects. Now it's recycled for profit. The issues are obvious. How exactly does one determine chemical BiPolar? Many very brilliant people are diagnosed BiPolar. As a now famous physician Elliot Dacher (PsychoNeuroImmunology book and leading world speaker) once said to me, it's easy to hand out drugs. It's much more difficult to teach a patient to really meditate seriously two or three times a day. And, a brilliant person will feel more intensely and may need that level of meditation. Are they disciplined? Or lazy? Or, turning their lives over to doctor/teacher/mother/father/authority? If I'm not responsible for my life who is? It's easy to point a finger, but then I never have a solution. I cannot create a solution if it's someone else causing the problem. Or, are we going to think people are too dumb to handle their own lives? That's a big issue that alot of people debate. I personally like to honor the Teacher that lives in each and every person. We all get trauma. We all get problems. And, we all have a solution within ourselves for that piece of the whole which is us, our dharma. Yes, again on lithium. There are many salts our bodies need and many we don't get. Again, it's too cheap, as you said. And a nutritional diagnosis of the bloodstream is about $75.00. How many people get that before being given Prozac? My bet is less than 3%. Thank you for your feedback Dharma, well thought out and well spoken. And, by the way I very much enjoyed your Tibetan post and would love to read more. By the way everyone, Dharma has great eyes, get her to put a pic on the site! Love and Light, Bo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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