Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 On Thu, 9 Mar 2000 08:24:50 Roger Isaacs wrote: >NonDuality has absolutely nothing to do with realization !!!!!!!! You are right, the words "nonduality" and "realization" are two separate words and have do not mean the same. The concepts these words point to do not also have a direct connection. >People on this email list (NDS) fall into 2 groups: the realized and the >non-realized. One might think that NonDuality is the "way", but this is >absolutely not the case. And who is this "one" who "thinks" so ? Who are these "ppl" you're talking about that "fall" into 2 categories anyway ? >Realization is a particular stage, Osho describes it as level 4, Maharishi >M. Yogi as level 5, Barry Long as level 4... Steiner, Gurdjieff, Aurobindo: >all have similiar descriptions. > >Nonduality is a more advanced stage, Osho suggests it becomes a possibility >at level 5, MMY at level 6-7, BL describes levels 5-7. (quotes available on >request but I don't have the books handy now) Oooh, that's a lot of levels. Reminds me of some fun videogames I have played in the past. Some of them had up to 20 levels and you had to do a lot of fussing to get there. And sometimes you ended up not knowing where to go because of navigational problems and everything looked the same ! >So, if one is unrealized, it's just a pointing. Who's unrealized again ? >The work to be done is to be still. And who does the work ? >Drop intellectualization, drop thoughts, >all thoughts, especially those about NonDuality including those droppings as well ? ) LOLOLOLOL ! Just pulling everyone's legs here. Best regards, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 At 10:14 PM 3/10/00, mumble cat wrote: (Someone else said): >>Nonduality is a more advanced stage, Osho suggests it becomes a possibility >>at level 5, MMY at level 6-7, BL describes levels 5-7. (quotes available on >>request but I don't have the books handy now) > >Oooh, that's a lot of levels. Amanda, I have a friend who had been studying a yogic-style teaching with 172 levels, each level had to be transcended. He came to a satsang and expressed great frustration because after 15 years he was only at level 57. But later, he came to find this non-dual approach very refreshing, no more trees to climb. Love, --Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 LOLOLOLOLOLOL! HAHAHAHAH and HOHOHOHOHO! Peace - Love - Michael > > including those droppings as well ? > ) LOLOLOLOL ! > > Just pulling everyone's legs here. > > > Best regards, > > Amanda. > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2000 Report Share Posted March 10, 2000 Greg Goode wrote: > > Greg Goode <goode > > At 10:14 PM 3/10/00, mumble cat wrote: > > (Someone else said): > >>Nonduality is a more advanced stage, Osho > suggests it becomes a possibility > >>at level 5, MMY at level 6-7, BL > describes levels 5-7. (quotes available on > >>request but I don't have the books handy > now) > > > >Oooh, that's a lot of levels. > > Amanda, > > I have a friend who had been studying a > yogic-style teaching with 172 > levels, each level had to be transcended. > He came to a satsang and > expressed great frustration because after > 15 years he was only at level 57. > But later, he came to find this non-dual > approach very refreshing, no more > trees to climb. > > Love, > > --Greg There is another optic to it. 172 levels is not enough. There should be an infinity of it. Rainbow, Antoine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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