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Namaste All,

 

Second query: Where do people on these list feel

desires come into the equation?

 

Is it possible to get Moksha with desires?

 

Or do they feel one may just continue with desires as

long as one's mind sees non-duality?

 

How are samskaras effected by non-duality success?

 

I personally have suggested that Moksha is impossible

if one still has desires, no matter how realised,

enlightened and non dual one's thinking is.

 

I notice the Buddha says that the origin of suffering

is craving. He also advocated morality in his eight

fold path.

 

Is there not karmas for desires?

 

" Who so offends an inoffensive man,

and innocent and blameless man,

upon that fool evil turns,

as fine dust thrown against the winds"Dharmapada

125.

 

How does meditation fit with this 'changing' of

thoughts in non-duality?

 

With regard to meditation, I pesonally use, in the

final instance, Anapanasati or mindfulness of

breathing, which I find takes me to a place of no

experience but of Blissful remembrance of Peace and

Love.

 

I don't have a name for it, it could be anything from

yoga nidra to Vedantic Samadhi, as opposed to Buddhist

samadhis. Or perhaps that is what it is!

 

 

Without going in too deep with Buddhagosa and

Visuddhamarga etc. What about the withdrawal of

senses?

 

To illustrate e.g. Love at the gross level is mainly

attachment and lust.

At the subtle it is a hankering.

At the causal it is surrender.

 

Can one be non-dual successfully and still be at the

first stage?

 

So I suppose my question is; 'Is moksha possible with

all these tendencies intact, no matter how non-dual

one is?

 

I don't want to get into a vegetarian fight here

please, but what about the killing of animals and

Ahimsa? Etc, Etc.

 

Or is it that as long as one rises above the world one

can do all these things with impunity? I can accept

that a Jivanmuti may sometimes inadvertantly, but what

about the weight of karma preventing Moksha?

 

Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

 

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ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,

THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

 

 

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