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Namaste All,NDS primarily, copy to HS

 

" In your seeing there should be only seeing, in your

hearing only hearing, in your smelling, tasting,

touching, nothing but smelling, tasting, touching, in

your cognising nothing but cognising." Buddha to a man

soon to die, however the Buddha said the man had a

purified mind therefore this instant Nirvana was

effective.

 

This is my observation of the lists so far, that they

seem cerebral and mental projections. Intellectual and

a kind of Western attempt at an easy way to Moksha

through the mind only, without having to work on the

basics of one's character which is the mind.

 

Many speak very intellectually but there is little

talk of purification or Ahimsa non-violence.

 

I really enjoy all the answers to the questions I

asked but I see many words.

 

My original opinion that these lists are in the

manomayakosa/lower mind still stands. Some answers are

inferring that the Buddha, Ramana teachings are at

some lower level than these lists.

 

Hands in the field are holier than the lips in the

Temple. Actions speak louder than words.

 

I have nothing extra to learn here, except that I

shouldn't put myself down, I was far more advanced

than I dared to presume. My vocab was inadequate that

is all.

 

K must have worked on me without words.

 

Love Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

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THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

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At 16:41 13/03/00 -0800, you wrote:

>Tony O'Clery <aoclery

>

>Namaste All,NDS primarily, copy to HS

>

>" In your seeing there should be only seeing, in your

>hearing only hearing, in your smelling, tasting,

>touching, nothing but smelling, tasting, touching, in

>your cognising nothing but cognising." Buddha to a man

>soon to die, however the Buddha said the man had a

>purified mind therefore this instant Nirvana was

>effective.

>

>This is my observation of the lists so far, that they

>seem cerebral and mental projections. Intellectual and

>a kind of Western attempt at an easy way to Moksha

>through the mind only, without having to work on the

>basics of one's character which is the mind.

 

I'll miss you Tony, but I think you are wrong.

 

I believe you mistake the medium for the message. As someone once said

about books:

"A book is like a mirror: when a monkey looks in, no philosopher looks out."

 

I don't know what you were really looking for: perhaps another guru? Before

you fly at me, please consider my question.

 

A mailing list is not a means of liberation per se. No one really believes

this

>

>Many speak very intellectually but there is little

>talk of purification or Ahimsa non-violence.

 

You missed much of that before you came on the list: I have benefitted

greatly from words and deeds of Ahimsa on this list in the past. This is a

major reason why I remain, and why I say that you only need to sort the

wheat from the chaff.

 

Why berate the rainy day for not drying your tears, while it nourishes the

soil?

>

>I really enjoy all the answers to the questions I

>asked but I see many words.

 

Naturally. We cannot fingerpaint in emails yet. ) I could see you enjoyed

the chats. But you were asking for answers, gradations, structures of this

and that; in th end these are as you say, just words. As for anything

"real", all I have to offer is some music I've made: you are welcome to that.

>

>My original opinion that these lists are in the

>manomayakosa/lower mind still stands. Some answers are

>inferring that the Buddha, Ramana teachings are at

>some lower level than these lists.

 

God knows what you may believe. For my part, I have only said what I know.

I'm just a bloke who has had some experiences. Feel free to ignore them, or

to compartmentalise them as you wish.

>

>Hands in the field are holier than the lips in the

>Temple. Actions speak louder than words.

 

What do you seek, my friend?

>

>I have nothing extra to learn here, except that I

>shouldn't put myself down, I was far more advanced

>than I dared to presume. My vocab was inadequate that

>is all.

 

But vocab is just words. You're right tho', you needn't put yourself down.

In the same vein, it might be wise to consider others in the same light.

>

>K must have worked on me without words.

 

I guess all those emails were kicking out the jams?

>

>Love Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

Peace, and may you find your heart's desire.

 

Rob