Guest guest Posted March 14, 2000 Report Share Posted March 14, 2000 On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:24:48 Robert Weil wrote: >God, I got in this morning and grinned like a fool at the number of posts. >What a great bunch of ppl there are on this list! LOL ! I think so too. ) >>I kept thinking about this tody when eating lunch >>and watching two friends trying to wrench >>sympathy for his own situation from the other, > >Yes, seen that too. I know now there's a way out of that. Years ago I would >have been just like them... Me too. Still fall into that trap myself many times. ;( I have to remind myself not to overdo it, as it is a relatively pointless activity. >>But does this voice ever stop asking for >>more and more ? I do wonder about this. >> >Yes, i believe it does, unless one's fear still drives the need. Fear of >loss, of something not lasting... Ah, that fear. Now I think I can more say, I see what your point is. And agree with you. >I find the Gestalt view interesting here: the need to reach out and grasp, >if frustrated too much, becomes a giving up. That's a great image. Thank you very much for sharing it with us. Like the camel, lion and child card as well. I just sometimes don't like my own affliction passions, including my own dislike for the afflictin passions. Or was that inflicting passions perhaps ? >But sometimes the horse gets to arrive at a place it wanted to see... ) >Tired, perhaps a little resentful, maybe feeling a bit used, but...! LOL ! Yeah, you can lead a horse to water etc. >>Yes ! No ! I don't know ! >> >>I only know emotions can be used as fuel for >>something else. > ><lol> How beautifully put! ) I'd like to be able to act out of unconditional love and give others this which everybody needs and wants, but at the same time I find all sorts of excuses not to do so and many times, I feel I can't do so. But it is always good to be shown what it is in the acts of others. I observe it every day. I wonder who plants this idea of unconditional love in our minds ? >You still like house/techno? We have some good parties over here! ) I most certainly do. I would love to be at one such party... with ear plugs... LOL ! ) Last summer we went out to a club in Maidstone. It was waaaaay cool. Such a big place we lost each other and spent 30 mins searching the crowd. Lots of good music, active and friendly atmosphere. And I got to see the quaint British female ritual of dancing around the handbag on the floor. LOL ! (Sorry for that very personal sharing, ppl.) Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2000 Report Share Posted March 15, 2000 At 04:20 15/03/00, you wrote: >"mumble cat" <mumblecat > Hi you, snip>>>I kept thinking about this tody when eating lunch >>>and watching two friends trying to wrench >>>sympathy for his own situation from the other, >> >>Yes, seen that too. I know now there's a way out of that. Years ago I would >>have been just like them... > >Me too. Still fall into that trap myself >many times. ;( >I have to remind myself not to overdo it, as it >is a relatively pointless activity. Oh yes, relatively pointless )) snip> >That's a great image. Thank you very >much for sharing it with us. >Like the camel, lion and child card as well. > >I just sometimes don't like my own affliction >passions, including my own dislike for the >afflictin passions. Or was that inflicting >passions perhaps ? I struggle there too sometimes. I reckon Christopher Winter has some good stuff for me on this. But then, it's the attachment to the passions, not they themselves, that is the difficulty. Although passions seem to me to arise from the need for outcome as wished... I'd like to be able to be passionate without purpose! ) > >>But sometimes the horse gets to arrive at a place it wanted to see... ) >>Tired, perhaps a little resentful, maybe feeling a bit used, but...! > >LOL ! Yeah, you can lead a horse to water etc. Yes, perhaps on this occasion th ehorse has to be shown that it's arrived at water, not merely been led down the road... May not be the major river it was told it was going to see, but enough to drink for now, before moving onto the greater water... assuming the river is as described... > snip> >I'd like to be able to act out of unconditional >love and give others this which everybody needs >and wants, but at the same time I find all sorts >of excuses not to do so and many times, I feel >I can't do so. But it is always good to be shown >what it is in the acts of others. I observe it >every day. > Do you also find a frustration that you cannot give the necessary "thing" sometimes, or don't know how? I guess there's also a learning when the "thing" is not mine to sort out, and I need to let it work itself out. It conflicts with my "view" of compassion, as a mission... ) Perhaps that attachment is unnecessary... >From my experience, on this list and others, (and I'll never forget it), what opens the heart allows flow, what closes the heart points at a need for healing, however arrived at. But it may not be your job to do on that occasion... At least, that helps me accept that I can allow myself a limited focus sometimes. >I wonder who plants this idea of unconditional >love in our minds ? Lovely question. I'm just glad it was planted. Perhaps the penny finally drops? ) Like the man said when he'd been hitting his head against a brick wall, it's so good when it stops... > >>You still like house/techno? We have some good parties over here! ) > >I most certainly do. I would love to be at one >such party... with ear plugs... LOL ! ) >Last summer we went out to a club in Maidstone. >It was waaaaay cool. Such a big place we lost >each other and spent 30 mins searching the crowd. That happens here too. The parties have usually had 200/300 ppl, so they're not huge, but they are crazy. ) I am sure there'll be a midsummer party, and probably others to celebrate good weather... >Lots of good music, active and friendly atmosphere. >And I got to see the >quaint British female ritual of dancing around >the handbag on the floor. LOL ! Handbags? The parties held here, you can forget about handbags (ppl frequently do!). Take a bumbag, leave the rest in the vehicle, and just have fun! As far as I can see, we are talking a new wave of tribal/group gatherings, eclectic, focussed and accepting. This has been the inspiration for the music. It's not clubbing. It's hi-tech happening. ) >(Sorry for that very personal sharing, ppl.) Ditto, thanks, ppl. Just hitting them as they're pitched... Love Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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