Guest guest Posted March 16, 2000 Report Share Posted March 16, 2000 Namaste All, Robert, Michael and all those I didn't have the guts to mention, (according to Robert).Line up and be masochistic. Heinrich Himmler on the killing of 6 million Jews and 5 million, Gypsies, Slavs and others. " All is one, I am non-dual and realised, I am on the internet list it must be so, it didn't happen, I read the book on karma, we kill more than millions all day, walking and breathing, everything is as it should be, we kill billions of animals don't we, the stone has consciousness but we smash it with a hammer, the inmates are smashing stones I am just administering their karma , I am not the doer, it never happened, karma is just a memory, we all eat meat everyday there's no difference, its all the same there's only one soul." How does that sound? This is as ridiculous as intellectual responses from some obviously delusional people, who have to look at their licence every morning to see who they are?? I can't believe that was posted!! If I have not mentioned your name then please tell me. The point I am making and a lot are proving is that, actions speak louder than words, and that being intellectually realised is just B/S. If for example you can ignore and enjoy the fruits of suffering, and then come up with some hackneyed excuse about non-dualism. If one is not a Jivanmukti the laws of physics and this production of Maya apply. If you could convince me that Jesus or Buddha would take a job as a slaughterman in an abbatoir, or do Himmler's, Pol Pots, Hitler's, Stalin's job, you may convince me at least that your talk is not waffle or hypocritical B/S. To be discussing any kind of spirituality on these list without admitting to compassion and awareness is just hypocrisy. It is pretentious for one should seemingly know better. People without non-dual or spiritual pretensions, just don't know. We are supposed to be intelligent and able to distuingish right from wrong etc. I make no pretensions to what I am and what I am not. I am not a Jivanmukti, yet, but if it means anything like the hypocrisy I see here, then I'll stay not one. It is the pretending and excuses which prevent your progress and final moksha, the subconscious samskaras from denying your being. This is the hinderance to us all. I am not perfect but I am not causing pain and suffering to dumb animals. Some dumb human animals on this lists get offended by people like me. I am sorry but Love isn't all 'warm fuzzies', and intellectual self deception. You don't think that the vibrations of the deaths of billions of animals doesn't pollute the earths spiritual atmosphere, never mind that they come back with resentment and violence????????In the end result concentrating on your own moksha with indifference and without purification won't work. I am really imperfect, I know it, and I am working on it. Even if I am not the body!!!!!!!!!!!!!You may think I am combative on here, perhaps yes but I have improved since I was actually physically combative. It seems to me that when working as a laborer etc, I found honesty in their ignorance, no pretensions. Or spiritually dangerous notions that hinder other people. Om Namah Sivaya, Tony. ===== http://members.xoom.com/aoclery/sanskritglos.htm ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real, THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light, MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality. OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace. Talk to your friends online with Messenger. http://im. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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