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At 04:42 PM 3/16/00 -0500, Bruce Morgen wrote:

>> >Said with love like I do to Joshua when he's bitchin' & moanin'

>> about the

>> >world

>> >because I won't make him a sandwich, or for some other silly reason

>> he could

>> >do himself but he wants others to do for him...

>>

>> You're making me smile!!! --Greg

>>

>You're not alone, Gregji!!! -- Bruce

 

I'm not sure who Joshua is (son?, husband?, our late competition expert?),

but in LTG-ji's words, aren't the love and wisdom and ahimsa and strength a

joy to read?!

 

--Greg

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In a message dated 03/16/2000 5:07:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, goode

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> I'm not sure who Joshua is (son?, husband?, our late competition expert?),

 

Hi Greg... Thanks for the sooo kind words. I was just telling someone

wouldn't it be wonderful if we could see ourselves as others see us? I think

many of us think so little of ourself that when we see through others eyes,

it is such a boost! And I don't mean to our ego, but to our spirit! It is

very humbling. I think here on this journey, we've overextended ourself to

not allow praise or appreciation get to us for fear of it going to our head.

I can understand that, as at a certain time on the path, the ego can go

rampant during the processing of the kundalini and really out of hand. Mine

always did. You would have thought I was Mohammed Ali. :-)

 

Now it's like the opposite. Instead of the ego saying "yes I'm the

greatest!" and agreeing with the praise/appreciation, it now says ''nooo

way!" Ya' just can't make that sucker happy.

 

What I'm finding now is such an appreciation for others. Praises, which

used to be a 'no no' due to ego agrandizement (I'm not sure if that's a word,

but it looks good, so it'll stay).... now become more of a reminder that we

are possibly more than we think. The grasping on to it is gone and there is

now just much appreciation. Does this make sense?

 

Joshua is my 15 year old son. I've written many stories about him on the IAM

list and a mentioned him a little bit here. He is a wise old soul that

teaches me a lot. Thanks for asking!

 

Love,

xxxtg

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At 12:03 PM 3/17/00 -0500, leteegee wrote:

>leteegee

>

>In a message dated 03/16/2000 5:07:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

goode

>writes:

>

>> I'm not sure who Joshua is (son?, husband?, our late competition expert?),

>

>Hi Greg... Thanks for the sooo kind words. I was just telling someone

>wouldn't it be wonderful if we could see ourselves as others see us? I

think

>many of us think so little of ourself that when we see through others eyes,

>it is such a boost! And I don't mean to our ego, but to our spirit! It is

>very humbling. I think here on this journey, we've overextended ourself

to

>not allow praise or appreciation get to us for fear of it going to our

head.

> I can understand that, as at a certain time on the path, the ego can go

>rampant during the processing of the kundalini and really out of hand. Mine

>always did. You would have thought I was Mohammed Ali. :-)

>

>Now it's like the opposite. Instead of the ego saying "yes I'm the

>greatest!" and agreeing with the praise/appreciation, it now says ''nooo

>way!" Ya' just can't make that sucker happy.

 

"No way" is the same as "I'm the greatest" -- it's still "I'm in charge

here." The ego wants contradictory, incompatible things. It wants to

bathe in the glory of being the greatest, and also to bathe in the virtuous

humility of being out of the way. Like you say, it mutates. Like the

cockroaches that adapt to one brand of insecticide, so you have to go out

and buy another.

 

A side question about Kundalini teachings, a tradition I hardly know

anything about. If the ego goes rampant during the processing of Kundalini

- is this related to the teaching in that tradition? Does the teaching say

that something very profound is going on, and that the person is really

progressing? For example, one lady told me that in her yogic practice,

there are "kriyas," spontaneous releases of energy. Each kriya represents

a burning of karma trapped in the body. Kriyas could manifest as barks of

a dog or meows of a cat, etc. If you manifest a kriya on the august

holiday of Shivaratri, then each round of chanting and each kriya counts

5,000 times as much, burns 5,000 times as much karma, as it would on any

other day. So there was a lot of ego investment in how much was being

burned up. She had the sense that some people would force it and fake it

and bring it on themselves, to look impressive to others. I saw some of

the same attachments in the Pentacostal church, people faking the speaking

in tongues. One church down the block from mine even taught courses and

gave diplomas in the art!!

 

Of course every tradition has this kind of excess...

>What I'm finding now is such an appreciation for others. Praises, which

>used to be a 'no no' due to ego agrandizement (I'm not sure if that's a

word,

>but it looks good, so it'll stay).... now become more of a reminder that we

>are possibly more than we think. The grasping on to it is gone and there is

>now just much appreciation. Does this make sense?

 

Sure, the more forgiven and accepted we are to ourselves, the better

everyone else looks!

>>Joshua is my 15 year old son. I've written many stories about him on the

IAM

>list and a mentioned him a little bit here. He is a wise old soul that

>teaches me a lot. Thanks for asking!

 

A wise old soul with a wise young mother!

 

Love,

 

--Greg

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