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>"Dan Berkow, PhD" <berkowd

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>At 05:27 PM 3/16/00 -0500, you wrote:

>>"Gloria Lee" <glee

>>

>>

>>

>>>jodyr <jodyr

>>>

>>>On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Gloria Lee wrote:

>>>

>>>[snip]

>>>

>>>> Similarly we have simply

>>>> to throw out all the age-long samskaras [innate tendencies] which

>>>> are inside us. When all of them have been given up, the Self will

>>>> shine alone.

>>>>

>>>> - Sri Ramana Maharshi

>>>

>>>I would amend the above thus:

>>>

>>>When identification with the samskaras has been revealed and

>>>overcome, the Self will shine alone.

>>>

>>>The point I'm trying to make is that samskaras will continue

>>>to exist after Moksha has occurred. It isn't the samskaras

>>>themselves that get in the way, it is the identification with

>>>the samskaras that occlude.

>>>

>>>--jodyr.

>>

>>If only this would work with my diet. I have disidentified with those damn

>fat

>>calories and still the little buggers do their worst! :) Reality triumphs

>>whether I identify with it or not. Amend that!

>>

>>Some things do in fact have to be given up.. it's a bummer is what it is.

>>Glo

>

>Hi Glo,

>

>Some things? You mean like ... everything?

>Now, that's a hell of a diet!!

>

>Love,

>Dan

>

Dear Dan,

 

Yeah, it was a silly example.. diet happens to be on my "to do list." I admit

I'd love to find a "weasel clause".. who wouldn't? And not to say that is what

jody is doing and I don't know exactly how jody really means "only

disidentify"...but still I would find it difficult to know I had even begun to

disidentify with my innate tendencies without some sort of "Reality" check. Self

deception itself being one of those very innate tendencies. It's a tricky

business this giving up. .. and I'm in no place to be amending Ramana myself.

Sometimes tho, the Self does seem to shine through no matter what..and for that

I am grateful.

 

What exactly are all these samskaras?? My understanding of untruth undergoes

constant remodeling.

 

Love, Glo

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