Intellectual dishonesty!

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On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 12:31:21 Greg Goode wrote:

>"No way" is the same as "I'm the greatest" -- it's still "I'm in charge

>here." The ego wants contradictory, incompatible things. It wants to

>bathe in the glory of being the greatest, and also to bathe in the virtuous

>humility of being out of the way.

 

Yeah, you got to watch out for that ego.

 

But it's true though, it's hard to wrestle with

it. It's difficult when the ego feels good

and confident and big

and it is difficult when the ego

feels small and bruised.

 

Right now I don't know any other way than to

let the ego play its part and watch the

multitude of masks that it comes up with

and move on from the next to the next...

>A side question about Kundalini teachings, a tradition I hardly know

>anything about.

 

There's a big difference b/n Kundalini "teaching"

and experiences with Kundalini.

 

I'd say Kundalini Yoga and different forms of

Tantra are Kundalini teachings.

The rest I don't know about.

>If the ego goes rampant during the processing of Kundalini

>- is this related to the teaching in that tradition?

 

In one way, I'd more say it is related to a lack

of teaching.

 

I don't know since I don't have the joy of

practicing under a teacher, but my guess is

that

a long time practice of sadhana and / or

a long time practice with a teacher may

lessen the tendencies of a rampant ego...

especially if Kundalini is seen as merely

the first step on a long march and not

an instant enlightenment.

 

I don't know, it may also depend on personal

temperament (the ego) of the individual a lot.

>Does the teaching say

>that something very profound is going on, and that the person is really

>progressing?

 

My little knowledge about this stretches

to a quote from a piece on Kundalini Yoga that

I found at the web pages dedicated to

Sri Lakshmanjoo (I'm not sure if it was

written by him, though).

It said that "Awakening Kundalini is easy.

Making Kundalini rise to the topmost chakra is

difficult".

 

When thinking about how difficult it can

be to awaken Kundalini, the quote is probably

not an understatement.

 

Yeah, a lot of sources state that when Kundalini

awakens, liberation and enlightenment is close

at hand. However, some sources also mention that

Kundalini "will liberate the wise and

bind the fool".

 

As I see (or my ego sees ) it,

Kundalini does bring up the ego, makes it

very confident, very obvious and visible

for different reasons.

This can be a problem and does not need to be

a "progress".

Of course, for some, boosting the ego is

very positive.

 

It at any rate makes larger portions of

the subconscious and the affective system

more visible for the conscious mind.

Makes it harder to put the brakes on and

stop and consider.

>So there was a lot of ego investment in how much was being

>burned up. She had the sense that some people would force it and fake it

>and bring it on themselves, to look impressive to others.

 

I've read about the same as well.

Could very well happen, in some circles.

 

I just know I don't want to start howling in a public place.

Not that I howl in private either.

At least not that much. )

>Sure, the more forgiven and accepted we are to ourselves, the better

>everyone else looks!

 

)

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

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Amanda,

 

Thanks for the information!

 

I like what you said here:

>As I see (or my ego sees ) it,

>Kundalini does bring up the ego, makes it

>very confident, very obvious and visible

>for different reasons.

>This can be a problem and does not need to be

>a "progress".

>Of course, for some, boosting the ego is

>very positive.

 

Before we can become nothing we have to become someone...

 

I like this too:

>It at any rate makes larger portions of

>the subconscious and the affective system

>more visible for the conscious mind.

>Makes it harder to put the brakes on and

>stop and consider.

 

I like this too:

>I just know I don't want to start howling in a public place.

>Not that I howl in private either.

>At least not that much. )

 

Love,

 

--Greg