Amanda/learning through a dream

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At 07:15 PM 3/18/00 +0000, you wrote:

>"mumble cat" <mumblecat

>

>

>On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:12:43 Greg Goode wrote:

>

>>For most people, when they enter

>>into a Kundalini practice, pursue K-yoga, seek a teacher in the tradition,

>>etc., have they already felt K-activity and then seek to learn more about

>>it, or do they hear about it and then want to experience it?

>

>Thanks for your very

>nice questions Greg-san and all your patience. )

>

> I don't know the answer to your question,

>I'd say ppl do a little bit of both.

>

>Nevertheless, I have something to add about

>teachers and Kundalini.

>

>Personally, I strongly feel Kundalini represents a

>teaching process, both directly and indirectly.

>

>In re. directly:

>Have you heard about the idea of the

>Devaloka of Kashmir

>Shaivism ? This is some form of dream

>location, into which the practitioner

>is supposed to "go" when asleep to learn

>spiritual matters.

>

>When I first read about this, I laughed out loud, as the concept of

disembodied "teachers"

>or beings in a Devaloka sounded like

>a fairytale. Now I can only say I stopped

>laughing and that there is a teaching process.

>

>Love,

>

>Amanda.

 

Indeed, there is.

Thanks for sharing this, Amanda.

Never heard of devaloka before,

but know it's not necessary

to have heard of devaloka to

participate in dream-teaching

and dream-learning.

 

Nothing is ultimately bounded.

One appears where one appears.

One learns what is to be learned.

One expresses as one expresses.

 

To think that dreams are merely unreal

is bias.

Dreams are the waking state's language

for experiential events that occur

when the body is still and the

mode of this world is not operating.

Dreams may be referenced "within"

the body-mind's experiential realm,

or "outside" that realm... as ultimately,

"inside" and "outside" are not definers...

 

To think that teaching, instructions, even classes

occur only in the so-called "waking consciousness"

is a form of limitation and prejudice.

 

An even more limiting bias is the assumption

that "living teacher" must have a human

body, a "physical" body.

 

We seem to try to fit learning and teaching

in with our worldly expectations, our

worldly definitions, and what can this

do but confine our learning?

 

Love,

Dan