Guest guest Posted March 27, 2000 Report Share Posted March 27, 2000 Lama Surya Das says: "One need not travel to distant lands, seek exotic mystical experiences, master esoteric mantras and treatises, or cul- tivate extraordinary states of mind in order to experience a radical change of heart and inner transformation. Spiri- tually speaking, everything that one wants, and aspires to, and needs is ever-present, accessible here and now - for those with eyes to see. It's the old adage all over again: You don't need to see different things, but rather to see things differently. ( from "Awakening the Buddha Within" page 47 )." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2000 Report Share Posted March 28, 2000 "Gloria Lee" <glee Lama Surya Das says: "One need not travel to distant lands, seek exotic mystical experiences, master esoteric mantras and treatises, or cul- tivate extraordinary states of mind in order to experience a radical change of heart and inner transformation. Spiri- tually speaking, everything that one wants, and aspires to, and needs is ever-present, accessible here and now - for those with eyes to see. It's the old adage all over again: You don't need to see different things, but rather to see things differently. ( from "Awakening the Buddha Within" page 47 )." Striking and beautiful Gloria and thanks for sharing. We might indeed be destined to see many things and experience many events. At some point, we might be inclined to look at and examine the nature of seeing itself. There is a certain subtlety to that seeing which diffuses itself over a range of perception and sees nothing in particular and is content and at peace with the absence of content in its own nothingness. Remember once you posted T.S. Eliot's verse which spoke to this. Something like after much travel, we return home, and see it as if for the very first time. Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2000 Report Share Posted March 28, 2000 >At 11:43 PM 3/27/00 -0500, you wrote: >"Gloria Lee" <glee > >Lama Surya Das says: > > "One need not travel to distant lands, seek exotic mystical > experiences, master esoteric mantras and treatises, or cul- > tivate extraordinary states of mind in order to experience > a radical change of heart and inner transformation. Spiri- > tually speaking, everything that one wants, and aspires to, > and needs is ever-present, accessible here and now - for > those with eyes to see. It's the old adage all over again: > You don't need to see different things, but rather to see > things differently. > > ( from "Awakening the Buddha Within" page 47 )." > ->You don't need to see different things, but rather to see things differently. I really like that line, thank You, Gloria. [speaking to no one in particular...] In my own little world, there exists the thought that this "reality" could be called a dream, but it also could be called "banana nut bread". It makes no difference what it is called, it just is. And because it 'Is', it is no different than our own thoughts. Escaping from our thoughts seems kind of silly, since these 'thoughts' originate with Us anyway. The same could be said about "The Dream". Are we on a mission to reach some self-appointed goal, only to find that when the goal is reached, nothing has changed? Do we seek to "rise above" the physical manifestation as part of our own continuing effort to "fool" ourselves? I am of the opinion (which has absolutely nothing to do with "reality"), that it makes little difference of the "state" that one finds oneself immersed within. There is just no escaping Oneself, but there is an enormous amount of effort exerted in attempting to be _something_, to the point of _anything_ being better than nothing. Finding Oneself on the border of being something and nothing is not the goal. If you can "fall" both ways, there is nothing to seek and no yearning to be felt. Achieving Bliss is a great and worthwhile undertaking,. Upon reaching the goal, what will next occur? Bliss eternal, or will the Master become Master of the Dream as well? I feel that the Dream is no different than Bliss. Running from Ourselves can be a full time occupation. Of course, YMMV ( 'cuz mine sure does! ) :-) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2000 Report Share Posted March 29, 2000 Paul Misiunas <misiunas < > Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:53 AM Re: What is needed >Paul Misiunas <misiunas > > >At 11:43 PM 3/27/00 -0500, you wrote: > >"Gloria Lee" <glee > > > >Lama Surya Das says: > > > > "One need not travel to distant lands, seek exotic mystical > > experiences, master esoteric mantras and treatises, or cul- > > tivate extraordinary states of mind in order to experience > > a radical change of heart and inner transformation. Spiri- > > tually speaking, everything that one wants, and aspires to, > > and needs is ever-present, accessible here and now - for > > those with eyes to see. It's the old adage all over again: > > You don't need to see different things, but rather to see > > things differently. > > > > ( from "Awakening the Buddha Within" page 47 )." > > > >->You don't need to see different things, but rather to see things >differently. > >I really like that line, thank You, Gloria. > > >[speaking to no one in particular...] > >In my own little world, there exists the thought that this "reality" could >be called a dream, but it also could be called "banana nut bread". It makes >no difference what it is called, it just is. > >And because it 'Is', it is no different than our own thoughts. Escaping >from our thoughts seems kind of silly, since these 'thoughts' originate >with Us anyway. The same could be said about "The Dream". > >Are we on a mission to reach some self-appointed goal, only to find that >when the goal is reached, nothing has changed? Do we seek to "rise above" >the physical manifestation as part of our own continuing effort to "fool" >ourselves? > >I am of the opinion (which has absolutely nothing to do with "reality"), >that it makes little difference of the "state" that one finds oneself >immersed within. There is just no escaping Oneself, but there is an >enormous amount of effort exerted in attempting to be _something_, to the >point of _anything_ being better than nothing. > >Finding Oneself on the border of being something and nothing is not the >goal. If you can "fall" both ways, there is nothing to seek and no yearning >to be felt. > >Achieving Bliss is a great and worthwhile undertaking,. Upon reaching the >goal, what will next occur? Bliss eternal, or will the Master become Master >of the Dream as well? > >I feel that the Dream is no different than Bliss. Running from Ourselves >can be a full time occupation. > >Of course, YMMV ( 'cuz mine sure does! ) > >:-) Paul Dear Paul, In my limited experience of being "no one in particular," it is a lot more blissful than either being Somebody or Running from Ourselves. It is hard to give up the illusion of being able to control to which side one falls from that border into something or nothing. On a good day, I can willingly accept that my "identity" is just another manifestation. But when my thoughts create pain, it seems natural to want to escape that pain. That doesn't have to mean wanting to escape Reality or running from ourselves, this is where the seeing things differently makes all the difference. Nothing needs to change other than my understanding. I do not mean here that a person cannot choose to leave painful situations or relationships, but the leaving of them (or the staying with them) will be from a freedom of clarity. That clarity comes from the freedom of neither running from ourselves or seeking to be somebody. So I would agree that being on a mission to arrive at some lasting bliss based on conditions is fruitless. Only when our awareness truly is Reality based are we free. Thanks for your inspirational thoughts, Paul. Love, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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