Guest guest Posted March 30, 2000 Report Share Posted March 30, 2000 Hi Juan and friends.. I've very loosely translated Juan's letter using altavista's translation service, changing a word or two which did not translate correctly. I've left most of it intact and hope that this is essentially correct Juan. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://206.14.7.53/intcenter/Langu2.htm (dictionaries) http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ (translator) .o00o. "juan lago" <jalago Re: introduction an question ok i´m going to try in spanish, I've spent 8 years with symptoms of K. the subject began with 2 powerful experiences of death that does not finish (fear). Last 8 months the subject does not stop, but even, it tends to increase. The reason of centering in chakra of the heart is solely intuitive, and begins when this area is very sensible. The typical meditation zazen is focusing attention on the area of agdomen, not taking shape in a point or chakra. This is the habitual form that my teacher recommends to me. The effects of the K are very wide lastly i don´t need to meditate to feel K: * headaches sometimes very high. * Light blinking like a cinema or points. * thunder up in my spine upward head (very strong). * out of body experience. like if flow in a water. * Fear to presences an voices.... * movetments (one day my hand articulating my wirst, and curveing the spine, an another extrange movetments. * flow energie in all my body an heat. Sometimes like fluid. * pain in throad, heart, top on the head,press in base of spine. * quake in body (sometime like earthquake. * so on * A lot of psicologial. All of this oscillate and is uncontrolable for me. Only that i want is take a distance with the experience a go, go direct. My teacher of Zen is a wonderful person but ZEN does not take care of these subjects. Sometimes it has recommended to me to meditate in Zazen and this it has produced me many problems (but uncontrollable pain and lloros desire, cry, an cry). I am trying to find a way to meditate more intuitively and proactively with K. I believe that to focus attention on they agdomen is correct, because it is more gradual and the effects are controllable, but also I believe that it is possible to follow my intuition. I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH COURAGE I'LL NEED WITHOUT BEING RECKLESS AND BEING ACTIVE. Her in Madrid I do not encounter any expert people, my family and friends (not my wife who is wonderful) are not very receptive. I have been had an internal medical checkup. The conclusion is that I am like a clock (all is right). I´m deep thank to you by your following... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2000 Report Share Posted March 31, 2000 On 3/30/00 at 6:52 PM Christiana P. Duranczyk wrote: ¤Hi Juan and friends.. I've very loosely translated Juan's letter using ¤altavista's translation service, changing a word or two which did not ¤translate correctly. I've left most of it intact and hope that this is ¤essentially correct Juan. Thanks Christiana - despite living 7 years in Spain, my knowledge of Spanish is minimal ¤ ¤ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ¤http://206.14.7.53/intcenter/Langu2.htm (dictionaries) ¤http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/ (translator) ¤ .o00o. ¤ ¤ "juan lago" <jalago ¤Re: introduction an question ¤ ¤ok i´m going to try in spanish, ¤ ¤I've spent 8 years with symptoms of K. the subject began with 2 powerful ¤experiences of death that does not finish (fear). That is correct - unless the fear is conquered (or technically, the block is removed) the fear remains or returns in another form. ¤ ¤Last 8 months the subject does not stop, but even, it tends to increase. ¤The reason of centering in chakra of the heart is solely intuitive, and ¤begins when this area is very sensible. ¤ I would say centering is on the heart chakra because of the block.. ¤The typical meditation zazen is focusing attention on the area of ¤agdomen, not taking shape in a point or chakra. This is the habitual ¤form that my teacher recommends to me. I can remember the "lower" chakras as the seat of murk - relentless concentration on the third eye brought relief... ¤The effects of the K are very wide lastly i don´t need to meditate to ¤feel K: ¤* headaches sometimes very high. ¤* Light blinking like a cinema or points. ¤* thunder up in my spine upward head (very strong). ¤* out of body experience. like if flow in a water. ¤* Fear to presences an voices.... ¤* movetments (one day my hand articulating my wirst, and curveing the ¤spine, an another extrange movetments. ¤* flow energie in all my body an heat. Sometimes like fluid. ¤* pain in throad, heart, top on the head,press in base of spine. ¤* quake in body (sometime like earthquake. ¤* so on ¤* A lot of psicologial. Apart from the fear, this really is very positive... ¤ ¤All of this oscillate and is uncontrolable for me. Of course, K. controls "you" - that is only natural... ¤Only that i want is take a distance with the experience a go, go ¤direct. But that is impossible - when the opposition to the natural unfolding stops, there will be effortlessness (until the next block). ¤My teacher of Zen is a wonderful person but ZEN does not take care of ¤these subjects. Sometimes it has recommended to me to meditate in Zazen ¤and this it has produced me many problems (but uncontrollable pain and ¤lloros desire, cry, an cry). This sounds like the relief of (unconsciously collected) tensions - again, not negative per se. ¤ ¤I am trying to find a way to meditate more intuitively and proactively ¤with K. I believe that to focus attention on they agdomen is correct, ¤because it is more gradual and the effects are controllable, but also I ¤believe that it is possible to follow my intuition. Energy follows mind - concentrate on the third eye. As one can concentrate on one thing at a time, awareness of chakras "below" will cease. ¤I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH COURAGE I'LL NEED WITHOUT BEING RECKLESS AND BEING ¤ACTIVE. Instead of courage (I-based), know there is no such thing as death. Ignoring needs neither courage nor contempt of death. ¤Her in Madrid I do not encounter any expert people, my family and ¤friends (not my wife who is wonderful) are not very receptive. Not much of a surprise, there are as many awakenings as there are creatures and unless the "major part" of K. is "over", one cannot recognize the "essentials". ¤I have been had an internal medical checkup. The conclusion is that I am ¤like a clock (all is right). This is positive too: it means all problems are in a way self-imposed so they can be solved. ¤I´m deep thank to you by your following... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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