Jesus and Paul mystics Essenes.

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Fascinating story Tony. I have heard of it before as well and read about the

tomb of Jesus in Kashmir. It seems to be a controversial topic and there is no

scholarly consensus on it.

 

I don't know much about history but it seems that there was a lot of trade and

interaction between the Far East and the Middle East and Turkey and even further

more than 2000 years ago. So there is no doubt that sages and mystics from

different cultures would have had the opportunity to meet with each other.

 

Somewhere, I also vaguely remember reading even about commerce involving South

America and India.

 

Harsha

 

 

Tony O'Clery wrote:

> Namaste All,

>

> It is believed that Paul also was an Essene and spent

> two years or more in study at Damascus, the code name

> for the Essene village at Qumran.John the Baptist was

> rather obvious, don't you think?

>

> With regard to Jesus being associated or raised by the

> Essenes there is a lot of information pointing to

> that.

> My sources indicate that Jesus left Palestine, at age

> thirteen, and travelled to India, Tibet, Persia,

> Greece and finally Egypt, where he took his final vows

> in the great pyramid, John the Baptist was also there.

>

> In India he visited with the Jains in their caves, he

> visited a group associated in someway with the Essenes

> in Jaganath. He spent time in Kasi and eventually went

> to Buddhistt Ladakh/Tibet, where he spent some years

> in a monastery and practised Raja Yoga.

>

> In the monastery at Himis in Leh there were kept on

> palm leaves the records of St Isa's life, the Eastern

> name for Jesus. These were initially brought to light

> by a Russian, Notavich. They are also confirmed by

> Swami Abhedananda of 'The Divine Life Mission', whose

> master also saw and read those leaves and wrote about

> them.

>

> One must remember before this time that Ashoka's

> missionaries were present throughout the middle-east.

> If one reads Josephus the historian, he mentions Jesus

> and also he talks about the Essenes, so does Pliny.

>

> The Catholic Encyclopedia states, " The Dead Sea

> Scrolls, however show grounds for suspecting

> considerable influence, which does nothing to destroy

> the originality of Christianity."

>

> Essenes and Christians held similar attitudes to

> communal living, the sacramental aspect of baptism,

> prophecy, reincarnation, healing etc etc. They both

> revered the 'Book of Enoch', and the 'Book of the

> secrets of Enoch', later banned by the Nicean and type

> councils that established 'modern purgated

> Christianity'.

> They had the same greeting, " Peace be with you", and

> both were opposed to taking oaths. The Essenic meal

> was 'bread and must', must is non-alcoholic wine,

> which was their brotherly meal, or Christian Agape

> (now the Mass).

>

> The Qumran writings of the Essenes heavily influence

> the New Testament it seems.

>

> The Essene Temple was at Mt. Carmel, Qumran was a

> secondary site, code-named Damascus, as in Paul/Saul

> on the road to Damascus, as I mentioned already.

>

> Prefix to the Carmelite Constitution in Rome 1281.

> A.D.

> " From the time when the prophets Elias and Eliseus

> dwelt devoutly on Mt Carmel, holy fathers both of the

> new and old testaments….lived praiseworthy lives by

> the fountain of Elias in a holy succession

> uninterruptedly maintained."

>

> It is believed that after Jesus' resurrection, he

> returned to Kashmir, and perhaps even visited Malaysia

> also. It is said he lived until his nineties and is

> buried in the 'Rozabal Tomb', in Srinagar. One family

> has tended this tomb for generations, the ' Tomb of

> the Prophet', it has stone feet outside with

> nail-holes in!

>

> This in no way takes anything away from the

> resurrection and ascension etc. He was a Jivanmukta!

>

> Love Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

>

> Ramana said even the stones we sit on are conscious.

> All is one how can it be any other way?

>