Guest guest Posted April 6, 2000 Report Share Posted April 6, 2000 On Thu, 06 Apr 2000 00:22:19 Jan Barendrecht wrote: >Apparently there are different versions of history. After WW >I, Germany was humiliated to a great extent, it had to pay >very large sums to pay for all damages and this badly affected >the lives of all Germans, in a way creating the condition >Hitler would exploit to start his atrocities. Also, similar conditions existed in other countries as well in Europe, there was a high degree of poverty and a lot of tension b/n the different political groups, particularly the left and right but also b/n the radical left (communists) and moderate left (social democrats) and the radical right (national socialists) and moderate right (conservatives). The time was one of political and economical unrest, not the least due to the "threat" of communist take over after the revolution in Russia during the first decade of the century. The history of the 20th century is some of the most complex but also the most rewarding subjects of human history to try and get an understanding of and also to reflect over. Another point >was that in the eyes of the British, in technology Germany was >becoming an undeniable competitor, despite the economic >measures against Germany. So even without the man called >Hitler, another man would have exploited the same condition >that Hitler did. I agree with this view. There seems to have been a lot of demagogues leaning towards fascism and the extreme right in the 20s and 30s not only in Germany but also in England and Italy to mention a few. Sooner or later, some of them must have gotten it right. Some ppl consider this apologist history, I don't know about that. >After WW II, regarding Germany these mistakes weren't >repeated. This is evident in German policy, contrary to for >instance Japan, a country that hasn't even publicly apologized >for the atrocities committed during WW II, let alone pay for >inflicted damages... And in Japanese schoolbooks of history, >nothing is mentioned about Japanese barbarities. Knowing a few facts of Japanese personal life, it is easy to see that it is extremely difficult for Japan as a Nation to admit the mistakes of the past. It is deeply embedded in the culture that an admittance will be a great loss for the collected ego of the state and the people. I doubt there will be any great admittances from Japan in the future... so one must try and not bear too many grudges in this direction. However, as you say, the result of this is a great number of young Japanese thus knows very little of the close past and has no relation to it, as is the case for generations in the Western world as well. The fact that a thing such as the Holocaust must consciosuly be remembered also indicates this. However, I have big difficulties in swallowing a knee jerk reaction to the history behind WW2. The whys and wherefores of the rise of the national socialist state is a highly complex issue. To say that "it could never have happened here" or "I would never have done such a thing" is a grave mistake indeed. Understanding how this could happen in the Self, in the body of Shiva, is very difficult indeed. Let me also suggest that the national socialist state bears many resemblances of other states in the more distant past, for example the Spartan state of ancient Greece. Our disgust for it is enhanced by its close- ness in time as well as its closeness to our own present day world. Just a few musings at the end of the day. Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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