Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 jkanary writes: << and to socially engineer the consciousness of the population in a way that is beneficial for the corporate owning classes. >> Money = Power Power = Money In Washington political parlance, the FDA is very minor leagues. But just to review the facts, up until 1996, ninety-five percent (95%) of all FDA research funds were spent on White Males between the ages of 45 and 60. Now gee, I wonder which segment of the population makes up the houses of the Senate and the Congress which vote for the money spent by the FDA? It's not a conspiracy, it's pure selfishness and self-interest. And, I know all Doctors don't care at all about money or self-interest. They starve carrying for the poor in the inner cities much like Saint Francis. Please, I was born in D.C., the likes of J. Edgar Hoover had cocktails at the house, I've eaten Christmas Eve dinner at the White House and unfortunately, have known more about politics and the insiders' inside backhouse deals than anyone should have to. Three days ago, I was at 1700 Pennsylvania Ave., at the top floor speaking to the Chairman of the Board of one of America's largest corporations about nonprofit and for-profit concepts. Everything, absolutely everything in Washington, D.C. happens for a reason. The F.D.A. is not some miraculous clean-white ethical exception. There are great and there are terrible people at the top. Please, do not kid yourself about the CEOs and Chairmans of the Pharmaceuticals in Switzerland. In Europe, it's a well-known fact that Swiss pharmaceuticals are responsible for more pollution of European rivers than any other industry. Most countries in Europe have been trying to get the Swiss pharmaceuticals to clean up the rivers for years. Since the pharmaceuticals care not a wit for the clean water of millions of French, German, Dutch, Danish, Italian, Spanish and Austrian people, do you really, truly think that their care extends beyond the bottom-line dollar or Swiss Franc? I am sure since they can't bother to clean up the rivers, you, the unknown citizen, carries more weight than the leaders of France, Germany and Italy. Don't you think? Your welfare, your health in Kalamazoo, Michigan; and Jackson, Mississippi; New York, N.Y.; you are the Chairman's primary concern, when he inks the deal to put the anti-psychotic drug, Wellbutrin, back on the market to help you quit smoking. Ignorance is the price of freedom, that enslaves us once again. "If you think an education is expensive, try ignorance." I am going to no-mail for awhile. I am sorry to be outspoken here, but truly it is our ignorance and naivete in America that is costing us. I am really amazed at the level of naivete here. What was it you said once about politicians, Jan? At these dollar levels, of course, the politicians are involved. I just cannot read this much naivete, I need a break, thank you very much for your love and compassion. See you in awhile, Love*Light*Laughter, ~ bo ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 Rainbolily, Does the FDA fund research? I didn't know that. I wonder if your facts are double and triple checked? There is bias toward white males in science, and as a middle aged, white male (which I can't at this point alter), I am part of the effort to change that; to involve women in science, to involve minority students. I think there are very real opportunities for under-represented people to go to school and get involved, and I hope you encourage such people to do so and change some of the imbalances. I wonder if your commentary doesn't do just the opposite though and make potential scientists hate science and the "evil" it represents. Perhaps a campaign of non-violence could work here. Kiss a scientist today. I could use a hug, for example. >Ignorance is the price of freedom, that enslaves us once again. MY YES!!!! Your passion is real. I applaud that. I also implore you to look beyond it to the humanity of scientists who spend their precious lives trying to make a difference for the good of man and the rest of our brothers and sisters on Planet Earth. Does flaming the pharmaceutical companies and then going off mail help improve the world? I don't feel helped. Ignorance cuts both ways and when you cut and run, I feel ignored. Maybe you haven't cut and run yet and will get this plea for balance. There is much to say for your point of view, but those in "power" will never hear it if it sounds like a prejudiced attack. Let's work together to find the truth. Love, Mark Rainbolily wrote: > jkanary writes: > > << and to socially > engineer the consciousness of the population in a way that is > beneficial for the corporate owning classes. >> > > Money = Power > > Power = Money > > In Washington political parlance, the FDA is very minor leagues. > > But just to review the facts, up until 1996, ninety-five percent (95%) > > of all FDA research funds were spent on White Males between > the ages of 45 and 60. Now gee, I wonder which segment of the > population makes up the houses of the Senate and the Congress > which vote for the money spent by the FDA? > > It's not a conspiracy, it's pure selfishness and self-interest. > And, I know all Doctors don't care at all about money or > self-interest. They starve carrying for the poor in the inner > cities much like Saint Francis. > > Please, I was born in D.C., the likes of J. Edgar Hoover had > cocktails at the house, I've eaten Christmas Eve dinner at > the White House and unfortunately, have known more about > politics and the insiders' inside backhouse deals than anyone > should have to. Three days ago, I was at 1700 Pennsylvania Ave., > at the top floor speaking to the Chairman of the Board of one of > America's largest corporations about nonprofit and for-profit > concepts. > > Everything, absolutely everything in Washington, D.C. happens > for a reason. The F.D.A. is not some miraculous clean-white > ethical exception. > > There are great and there are terrible people at the top. Please, > do not kid yourself about the CEOs and Chairmans of the > Pharmaceuticals in > Switzerland. In Europe, it's a well-known > fact that Swiss pharmaceuticals are responsible for more pollution > of European rivers than any other industry. Most countries > in Europe have been trying to get the Swiss pharmaceuticals to > clean up the rivers for years. > > Since the pharmaceuticals care not a wit for the clean water > of millions of French, German, Dutch, Danish, Italian, Spanish > and Austrian people, do you really, truly think that their care > extends beyond the bottom-line dollar or Swiss Franc? > > I am sure since they can't bother to clean up the rivers, you, > the unknown citizen, carries more weight than the leaders of > France, Germany and Italy. Don't you think? Your welfare, > your health in Kalamazoo, Michigan; and Jackson, Mississippi; > New York, N.Y.; you are the Chairman's primary concern, when > he inks the deal to put the anti-psychotic drug, Wellbutrin, back > on the market to help you quit smoking. > > Ignorance is the price of freedom, that enslaves us once again. > > "If you think an education is expensive, try ignorance." > > I am going to no-mail for awhile. I am sorry to be outspoken here, > but truly it is our ignorance and naivete in America that is costing > us. I am really amazed at the level of naivete here. > > What was it you said once about politicians, Jan? At these dollar > levels, of course, the politicians are involved. > > I just cannot read this much naivete, I need a break, thank you > very much for your love and compassion. > > See you in awhile, > Love*Light*Laughter, > ~ bo ~ > ----- > > ----- > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, > perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and > subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not > different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the > nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always > Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart > to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the > Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It > Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link > from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change > your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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