Guest guest Posted April 10, 2000 Report Share Posted April 10, 2000 Thank you Mark for this: > I feel the frustration, and I know from my own life that when things > have gone very wrong, and there's been a lot of pain, it is very > satisfying to finally find the undisputable enemy and let things rest > there. It's a big trap though. in my humble opinion, there is no > enemy. not even our own ego. nothing here but love. anything else > is... the problem. (and yes, it is illusion, there is no problem, but > it sure can be realistic.) No enemy, nothing here but love. It's not > naivety, it's practice and can be hard work. I don't want to change the > world, I just want to change me. .o00o. I've been observing all the opinions posted here about pharmaceuticals, about Christianity. You make a fine point for balance and observation of our tendencies to assume positions based on assumed values which keep us bound in polarized identity. I'll make a similar plea for breadth of perceptual field with regard to Christianity. There is a very strong movement amongst Contemplative Christians to live authentically within the Stillness of the Living Christ. I've been fortunate to know many who have practiced Zen, studied broadly and recognize the true intent of "Abide in me as I abide in you." (John 15:4). Standing with all of you, Christiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Amen, and peace be within you (and me) tenderly,gently, Love, Kristi....and Happy Birthday Mark and Marcia and all lurkers and others who are celebrating. > > I've been observing all the opinions posted here about pharmaceuticals, >about Christianity. You make a fine point for balance and observation of >our tendencies to assume positions based on assumed values which keep us >bound in polarized identity. > >I'll make a similar plea for breadth of perceptual field with regard to >Christianity. There is a very strong movement amongst Contemplative >Christians to live authentically within the Stillness of the Living >Christ. I've been fortunate to know many who have practiced Zen, studied >broadly and recognize the true intent of "Abide in me as I abide in >you." (John 15:4). > >Standing with all of you, >Christiana > >------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Nice. your point of view is Nice. I have practiced Zen with a Christian Master (incredible but real, here in Spain.). I have find a natural balance between Zen an Chistian. If you are familiarized with a fameous spanish Mistyc Saint juan de la Cruz or Magister Eckhart (like John of the Cross), you had saw that the fundamental question (from my point of view) is; you want really you´ll find. Personally i´m traing to recognize which is the real level or mesure that I want (ok, i understand that i can not to find nothing because i´m IT now). My process put to my in front of this question. Some times i can to recognize an i tell: NO, i don´t want or i don´t want enougt for abandon. Conclusion, for me, i want but not enought for die (what a pity). I belive the mesure of strength for abandon it always a question between me an IT. This, is for my the substance of the frustration. In another oportunies i have compared the frustration with a plane that can fly because he blow itself. do i want stop a blow an glide? I understand that this are personal parameters but i can not talk about another ones. Thanks , "Christiana P. Duranczyk" <cpd@w...> wrote: > Thank you Mark for this: > > > I feel the frustration, and I know from my own life that when things > > have gone very wrong, and there's been a lot of pain, it is very > > satisfying to finally find the undisputable enemy and let things rest > > there. It's a big trap though. in my humble opinion, there is no > > enemy. not even our own ego. nothing here but love. anything else > > is... the problem. (and yes, it is illusion, there is no problem, but > > it sure can be realistic.) No enemy, nothing here but love. It's not > > naivety, it's practice and can be hard work. I don't want to change the > > world, I just want to change me. > .o00o. > > I've been observing all the opinions posted here about pharmaceuticals, > about Christianity. You make a fine point for balance and observation of > our tendencies to assume positions based on assumed values which keep us > bound in polarized identity. > > I'll make a similar plea for breadth of perceptual field with regard to > Christianity. There is a very strong movement amongst Contemplative > Christians to live authentically within the Stillness of the Living > Christ. I've been fortunate to know many who have practiced Zen, studied > broadly and recognize the true intent of "Abide in me as I abide in > you." (John 15:4). > > Standing with all of you, > Christiana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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