Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 This list has always been a sanctuary for me. A sacred place where love and kindness prevailed. In the year and four months of its existence I have never wanted to leave. Lately I have seen a lot of attacking and defending and hurt feelings. I am sorry to say that I myself appear to have wounded Annette in the attempt to defend my husband and his profession and life's work, in what appeared to me to be a non-factual implication of some evil conspiracy happening at the FDA. There was some attempt to balance viewpoints in the discussion about antidepressants. As someone who has manic-depressive illness that has caused 3 hospitalizations, cost me a job, and would have cost me a marriage if not for a miraculously understanding husband, I admit to having a bias towards the drugs that make a normal life possible for me. This illness is known to be genetic and nothing is known to enable a healing of it to the extent it is cured, merely relief from the worst of the symptoms. Nonetheless, people are being portrayed as responsible, indeed causing their own illness. When will you realize that the brain IS a physical organ subject to chemical imbalances, just as the pancreas causes diabetes when it fails to function properly? You may feel that you cause your own thoughts and feelings, but I assure you that the psychotic thoughts and out of control feelings that occur in a mania are NOT subject to the will and control of the one who suffers from them. I do not expect that others would share my intense emotions from singing the Songs of Children, as it is my experience and not theirs. However, I am bewildered by the lack of any interest to discuss them or compassion for the victims of the Holocaust. Instead there is an obsessive post after post focus on Hitler and having compassion for him. There does not seem to have been any real hatred for him to begin with, so I do wonder what all the fuss is about. Unless one had family members or was themself a victim of this horror, how can you possibly feel any need to forgive him? As with the Columbine killing, I assure you that whatever sorrow or grief you may imaginatively feel for the innocent victims is nothing compared with their family members. I think Kristie was attempting to make this same point when she said our difficulties with forgiveness need to to be focused on people in our own lives. My difficulty for the moment is right here with this list. I do not expect the list to cater to me, I simply wanted to express how difficult my presence here has become lately. My place of comfort has become a cause of anger and I really do not know what more to say about this hurt. I see that I am myself becoming a cause of hurt in the attempt to defend what is attacked here. I am trying to look at all this and process my feelings rather than just leave, as that would only make me even more sad. I do hope that when we write posts, we might consider more the feelings of others and show some understanding of different points of view. The people who are upsetting me also happen to be people I do love and I am remembering to have tolerance for the fact that people have different concerns due to their different lives. It helps some. With love, Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2000 Report Share Posted April 11, 2000 Don't leave Glo, I'll go instead. (been causing all kinds of trouble) please forgive me. Love, mark Gloria Lee wrote: > This list has always been a sanctuary for me. A sacred place where > love and > kindness prevailed. In the year and four months of its existence I > have never > wanted to leave. > > Lately I have seen a lot of attacking and defending and hurt feelings. > I am > sorry to say that I myself appear to have wounded Annette in the > attempt to > defend my husband and his profession and life's work, in what appeared > to me to > be a non-factual implication of some evil conspiracy happening at the > FDA. There > was some attempt to balance viewpoints in the discussion about > antidepressants. > As someone who has manic-depressive illness that has caused 3 > hospitalizations, > cost me a job, and would have cost me a marriage if not for a > miraculously > understanding husband, I admit to having a bias towards the drugs that > make a > normal life possible for me. This illness is known to be genetic and > nothing is > known to enable a healing of it to the extent it is cured, merely > relief from > the worst of the symptoms. Nonetheless, people are being portrayed as > responsible, indeed causing their own illness. When will you realize > that the > brain IS a physical organ subject to chemical imbalances, just as the > pancreas > causes diabetes when it fails to function properly? You may feel that > you cause > your own thoughts and feelings, but I assure you that the psychotic > thoughts and > out of control feelings that occur in a mania are NOT subject to the > will and > control of the one who suffers from them. > > I do not expect that others would share my intense emotions from > singing the > Songs of Children, as it is my experience and not theirs. However, I > am > bewildered by the lack of any interest to discuss them or compassion > for the > victims of the Holocaust. Instead there is an obsessive post after > post focus on > Hitler and having compassion for him. There does not seem to have been > any real > hatred for him to begin with, so I do wonder what all the fuss is > about. Unless > one had family members or was themself a victim of this horror, how > can you > possibly feel any need to forgive him? As with the Columbine killing, > I assure > you that whatever sorrow or grief you may imaginatively feel for the > innocent > victims is nothing compared with their family members. I think Kristie > was > attempting to make this same point when she said our difficulties with > > forgiveness need to to be focused on people in our own lives. My > difficulty for > the moment is right here with this list. > > I do not expect the list to cater to me, I simply wanted to express > how > difficult my presence here has become lately. My place of comfort has > become a > cause of anger and I really do not know what more to say about this > hurt. I see > that I am myself becoming a cause of hurt in the attempt to defend > what is > attacked here. I am trying to look at all this and process my feelings > rather > than just leave, as that would only make me even more sad. I do hope > that when > we write posts, we might consider more the feelings of others and show > some > understanding of different points of view. The people who are > upsetting me also > happen to be people I do love and I am remembering to have tolerance > for the > fact that people have different concerns due to their different lives. > It helps > some. > > With love, > Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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