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In a message dated 4/13/00 10:47:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

aoclery writes:

 

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Namaste All, Roger,

 

It is not negative to wish for an end to lives, and

for moksha or liberation. Death is essentially

separation from our desires, that's all. You seem to

have a chip on your shoulder about Christianity or

Jesus?? Ignore the Churches and read Jesus, try the

Gospel of Thomas from the Nag Hammadi texts.A sage is

a sage is a sage, the sage and 'God', are one and the

same!

 

What is death ?

If death is leaving the body ,retreating through the

Koshas and resting close to the Causal ,then we do

that everytime we are in deep sleep,or a coma or

whatever,it is sushupti. Even when we die ,we keep a

connection with the body and then the other sheaths

,progressively for some time ,before breaking the

final links with them,(excepting the vijnanamayakosha

and anandamayakosha of course,we need them for

rebirth).

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Tony, maybe you're the one with the chip. Hey, when did you experience

death in order to know this stuff? :):):) Now, if you've had an illuminating

NDE to tell us about, l'd love to hear it!

love,

jerry

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Namaste All, Roger,

 

It is not negative to wish for an end to lives, and

for moksha or liberation. Death is essentially

separation from our desires, that's all. You seem to

have a chip on your shoulder about Christianity or

Jesus?? Ignore the Churches and read Jesus, try the

Gospel of Thomas from the Nag Hammadi texts.A sage is

a sage is a sage, the sage and 'God', are one and the

same!

 

What is death ?

If death is leaving the body ,retreating through the

Koshas and resting close to the Causal ,then we do

that everytime we are in deep sleep,or a coma or

whatever,it is sushupti. Even when we die ,we keep a

connection with the body and then the other sheaths

,progressively for some time ,before breaking the

final links with them,(excepting the vijnanamayakosha

and anandamayakosha of course,we need them for

rebirth).

 

So whether Jesus died or not depends on your

understanding of that term. The Truth is that Jesus

according to many sage's opinions was a Jivanmukta or

whatever term one wishes to use for this state.

He,namely the Liberated Jesus energised the 'dead'

body of Jesus in order to continue what work was

required. It is said that Jesus realised he was Christ

when he was in his mid twenties or earlier, that is

when Jesus the man/ego died, not in his thirties on

the cross.

 

It saves time otherwise one has to grow up another

body. Yogis in India have used a technique to enter

relatively good bodies, of people who have recently

died, to do their work. There are reports in India of

yogis entering bodies ready for cremation and taking

off. hahahah!

 

So death is a relative term ,what dies? who dies?

Find out who you really are and become that and "death

",will be seen as only an illusion. That seems to be

the common teaching of all the Sages.

 

Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

 

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ASATHO MA SATH GAMAYA, From the unreal lead me to the real,

THAMASO MA JYOTHIR GAMAYA, From darkness, lead me to light,

MRITHYOR MA AMRITAM GAMAYA.From death, lead me to immortality.

OM, SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI. Om, Peace Peace Peace.

 

 

 

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