Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 On Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:22:49 Dan Berkow, PhD wrote: >The concept you > share here, of attributing one's egoic thoughts to nameless > sages, is useful. Unlike the degree of stress in my life, > there's no way to track them down and check if it's a valid > explanation (barring a telepathic link with nameless sages). > Thanks for pointing this out! Well, Dan, what I usually do is set up a telepathic link to my own sage, which is not nameless, since it is myself. However, that usually doesn't work to fool ppl into believeing I actually have sagely wisdom, most ppl say I'm a complete moron and fake, so I guess it's not the best of advice. ) At least the telepathic link is easy to set up, if anything else. ) In all sagelyhood, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 Dan Berkow, PhD <berkowd > >R: [snip] > >Tony's common illusion is to speak and then attribute his egoic thoughts to > >nameless Sages. > > D: Interesting thread here on ways to attribute egoic > thoughts. My common illusion is to speak and attribute my > egoic thoughts to a momentary lapse of judgment due to unfair > and excessive stress in my life. The concept you > share here, of attributing one's egoic thoughts to nameless > sages, is useful. Unlike the degree of stress in my life, > there's no way to track them down and check if it's a valid > explanation (barring a telepathic link with nameless sages). > Thanks for pointing this out! > -- D. -- Interesting, Dan, how you say "attribute my egoic thoughts to a momentary lapse of judgement..." But actually, it wouldn't be judgement that was lacking? Perhaps it's something like vigilence that is lacking? We could dance about words, maybe "judgement" is fine. In my case, the lapses might relate to some aspect of wanting control, which may be similar to your "unfair...stress". I don't believe ANY THING is EVER unfair, yet, my mind still moves in that direction. I like Venkatesananda's yoga suturas at dailyreadings.com . He says there are 5 different types of movement of the mind, all of which are a false indentification. It's interesting to hear that when the mind is engaged with even "proven theory", this is still false identification: Love, Roger ------ Vekatesananda follows describing movements of the mind which are false identification: I. 5. These apparent movements or states or moods of the mind, which are concepts, ideas or images in it, can all be grouped under five categories, irrespective of whether they are experienced as painful or not-painful, and whether or not they are covertly or clearly tainted by the five-fold afflictions described later. I. 6. These five categories of apparent movements of the mind are: proven theory, which is often assumed to have been reliably proved and therefore to constitute right knowledge; (or, rationalization of the movement of thought .) unsound thinking or wrong knowledge, assumptions, presumptions, beliefs (deductions and inference may also be included here); (or verbal condemnation of the movement of thought as wrong.) (fancy or hallucination or imagination totally unrelated to any proven or assumed theories, which may also include the delusion that one is already out of the movement of thought . a state of dullness or sleep; or succumbing to the movement of thought, feeling it is impossible to go beyond it; memory, or the recollection of a teaching or an experience which gives rise to the notion that it is possible to go beyond the movement of thought; such a notion forms an image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2000 Report Share Posted April 13, 2000 - Dan Berkow, PhD <berkowd Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:22 PM Re: attributing to nameless sages > > >R: [snip] > >Tony's common illusion is to speak and then attribute his egoic thoughts to > >nameless Sages. > > D: Interesting thread here on ways to attribute egoic > thoughts. My common illusion is to speak and attribute my > egoic thoughts to a momentary lapse of judgment due to unfair > and excessive stress in my life. The concept you > share here, of attributing one's egoic thoughts to nameless > sages, is useful. Unlike the degree of stress in my life, > there's no way to track them down and check if it's a valid > explanation (barring a telepathic link with nameless sages). > Thanks for pointing this out! > -- D. -- > > Gee, guys...you do this too? I was going to quote that saying, "under stress, we regress" to Mark..and none other than Dan admits to doing this. Mr. Perfect knows the answer to everything. You be the Daddy and I'll play the Mommy and we'll have this place whipped into shape in no time. No, no..I want to be a kid with Mark. Hey, if we can go all the way back to kindergarten again, I'm all for it. The adult me has to do the taxes..yikes! This is sooo stressful, I was actually yelling at my computer. How's that for an intelligent solution? I love to blame inanimate objects..they really can't talk back. Oh well..back to the IRS forms. Glo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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