Death experiences on request11

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Namaste All, Roger,.

 

You ask have I experienced death-I sleep every night!!

 

Talking about my own experiences, yes I have

experienced death in various degrees. I have had

concsious out of body experiences on the close vital,

not that spiritual!

 

On another occasion in India, a raggedy monk in his

subtle form appeared in my room, on an ashram. He

indicated that I should touch his back near his

shoulder, I don't whether I was out of the body or in

it. I touched him and was immediately transported up

through all the planes. To initially mishapen ghoulie

types, the ordinary types, then to amorphous types,

then eventually to 'beings of coloured light energy'.

At this stage the Bliss was incredible, the monk was

no longer in my consciousness, then I moved into a 'no

mind state', with no memory. I then came down and was

still remembering bliss feelings.

 

Since this time I have been able to 'visit', dead

people on the lower and even bliss planes, after they

have died. I don't make a practice of this siddhi just

use it occasionally with some relatives. For example

with an aunt, with her former partner, who was killed

in Burma, a posthumous V.C.and was looking for her

after she died a couple of years ago. Or with a 22

years old neice who was serving in the Army, had done

many peace keeping stints in Bosnia, and was being

trained for Kosova and died in her sleep, on military

training. She had things to say to her family and my

brother. So I have never used it for egoistic

purposes, just mainly for other people.

 

So yes Roger I know what 'death' is and have

experienced it consciously. In the end, finally

leaving the body is just separating from attachments.

 

This takes nothing away from the tragedy of a life cut

short or the pain of some deaths.

 

Sometimes in meditation things can happen, states,

bliss etc, but one usually isn't looking for an

experience so one mentally cut through all the planes

to find the place of peace. Mind you I didn't seek the

experience in India either. The monk looked like a

Tibetan Buddhist and I was in a Hindu environment!

 

Now this is of course in the illusory mind, but whilst

we still have one, these experiences happen! The

truth of my experiences is the 'no-mind', state.

 

Roger in good faith, I hope this answers your

question!

 

Yes I know Columbine is a tragedy, and I like all have

had deaths very close to me, a child, a first young

wife etc.

 

But death is an illusion, most are unconscious so

don't even experience the separations.Living is the

pain. dukkha!

 

Love and Om Namah Sivaya, Tony.

 

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In a message dated 4/14/00 10:17:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

aoclery writes:

 

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Since this time I have been able to 'visit', dead

people on the lower and even bliss planes, after they

have died. I don't make a practice of this siddhi just

use it occasionally with some relatives. For example

with an aunt, with her former partner, who was killed

in Burma, a posthumous V.C.and was looking for her

after she died a couple of years ago. Or with a 22

years old neice who was serving in the Army, had done

many peace keeping stints in Bosnia, and was being

trained for Kosova and died in her sleep, on military

training. She had things to say to her family and my

brother. So I have never used it for egoistic

purposes, just mainly for other people.

>>

 

Hmmm... Thank you, Tony. Do you recall whether you were awake or asleep

when this monk appeared to you? None of this sounds quite like a near death

experience or actually dying, but still very interesting. What was the cause

of your niece's death? Also, if you don't mind my curiosity, what's your

vocation? jerry