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On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:34:39 Dan Berkow, PhD wrote:

 

Jani:

>>Or if the writers of the gospels just couldn't

>>understand the more abstract concept of 'self' and thus ended

>>up in the current form of 'I'/'me' meaning Jesus himself.

>>

>An excellent point, Jani.

 

Dan:

>So, I guess you could even say it as,

> "no one comes to the self that

> has no other, except through

> the self that includes me

> in you and you in me."

 

I find that a great sounding "translation", Dan.

:)

 

I also suspect the words "self" and "I / me"

could be very interchangeable and easy to

"confuse" in many languages, as well as

difficult to translate.

Does anyone know the ancient Greek / Hebrew

words for self / I / me btw ? :)

 

A warm welcome to J(n)ani, good to see you here.

:)

 

Love,

 

Amanda.

 

 

 

 

 

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Beautiful, Dan!

>An excellent point, Jani.

>Jesus told me that he meant the

> same 'me' that he talked about

> when he said 'you are in me

> and I am in you.'

>So what you're saying is right.

>He also meant by father, the same

> father that he talked about as

> 'I am in the father and the father

> is in me," and "who has seen me

> has seen the father".

>So, I guess you could even say it as,

> "no one comes to the self that

> has no other, except through

> the self that includes me

> in you and you in me."

>

>Love,

>Dan

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