Guest guest Posted April 26, 2000 Report Share Posted April 26, 2000 In a message dated 4/25/00 11:05:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, hluthar writes: <. How well l'll succeed remains to be seen, but at the end of the day l'll have one comfort: l've followed my heart and my own inner guidance. Jerry when I read this, I visualized you singing like Frank Sinatra......"I did it my way!" I can see you singing Jerry with TG playing the piano, "Regrets, I've had a few, but too few to mention.....I don't know how the rest of the song goes..........But I did it myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. >> Harsha: God ... l was haunted by the same thought when l penned those words... but it could never be, because Frankie's never been my man. Not vulgar Frank, a hi ball with ice cubes tingling in one hand and a cigar in the other while he's sitting bleary eyed at the bar crooning " New York, New York". No, picture me instead as Fred: Fred Astaire. Frank had "broads", Fred had Ginger. Hey, l guess l can say this without getting roughed up by his mafia goons, now that Frank's gone, right? Frank had clout, Fred had class. He's the only pop culture figure this country ever produced, the mere mention of whose name brings tears to my eyes. Tracy and Hepburn, Gable and Lombard were great together: but Fred and Ginger were magic like no one else. They were my Shiva and Shakti. Frank could put over a song for sure, but Fred was pure and sang from the heart, with no trace of ego. And when he danced with Ginger, as they did while the orchestra played "Let's Face the Music and Dance", in formal dress, her shimmering white gown flowing with every effortless move, all was glowing and radiant. Have you seen "The Green Mile" ? The film is about this huge black guy who's actually some sort of an angel who's nevertheless on death row in Alabama in the 1930's. Before his execution they show him a movie, which happens to be a Fred and Ginger film. As he sees them dancing to the song "Cheek to Cheek", he squeals with delight, "They're angels, they're angels!" He was right. So don't picture me as Frank singing "My Way", but rather as Fred singing "They Can't Take That Away From Me" to Ginger in the mist as they're saying good-by on the Saten lsland Ferry. love, jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2000 Report Share Posted April 26, 2000 > > Harsha: > God ... l was haunted by the same thought when l penned those words... > but it could never be, because Frankie's never been my man. Not vulgar Frank, > a hi ball with ice cubes tingling in one hand and a cigar in the other while > he's sitting bleary eyed at the bar crooning " New York, New York". No, > picture me instead as Fred: Fred Astaire. Frank had "broads", Fred had > Ginger. Hey, l guess l can say this without getting roughed up by his mafia > goons, now that Frank's gone, right? > Frank had clout, Fred had class. > He's the only pop culture figure this country ever produced, the mere mention > of whose name brings tears to my eyes. Tracy and Hepburn, Gable and Lombard > were great together: but Fred and Ginger were magic like no one else. They > were my Shiva and Shakti. Frank could put over a song for sure, but Fred was > pure and sang from the heart, with no trace of ego. And when he danced with > Ginger, as they did while the orchestra played "Let's Face the Music and > Dance", in formal dress, her shimmering white gown flowing with every > effortless move, all was glowing and radiant. > > Have you seen "The Green Mile" ? The film is about this huge black > guy who's actually some sort of an angel who's nevertheless on death row in > Alabama in the 1930's. Before his execution they show him a movie, which > happens to be a Fred and Ginger film. As he sees them dancing to the song > "Cheek to Cheek", he squeals with delight, "They're angels, they're angels!" > He was right. > So don't picture me as Frank singing "My > Way", but rather as Fred singing "They Can't Take That Away From Me" to > Ginger in the mist as they're saying good-by on the Saten lsland Ferry. > > > love, > jerry > Jerry, you are beyond romantic..this is ultimate romantic purity, true devotional worship. This is St Francis and Claire, Heloise and Abelard. All I can do is sigh...in return. The Green Mile was a great movie, it had those moments that more than suspended disbelief..the true presence of an angel. Ahhhh, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 In a message dated 4/26/00 10:02:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, glee writes: > Harsha: > God ... l was haunted by the same thought when l penned those words... > but it could never be, because Frankie's never been my man. Not vulgar Frank, > a hi ball with ice cubes tingling in one hand and a cigar in the other while > he's sitting bleary eyed at the bar crooning " New York, New York". No, > picture me instead as Fred: Fred Astaire. Frank had "broads", Fred had > Ginger. Hey, l guess l can say this without getting roughed up by his mafia > goons, now that Frank's gone, right? > Frank had clout, Fred had class. > He's the only pop culture figure this country ever produced, the mere mention > of whose name brings tears to my eyes. Tracy and Hepburn, Gable and Lombard > were great together: but Fred and Ginger were magic like no one else. They > were my Shiva and Shakti. Frank could put over a song for sure, but Fred was > pure and sang from the heart, with no trace of ego. And when he danced with > Ginger, as they did while the orchestra played "Let's Face the Music and > Dance", in formal dress, her shimmering white gown flowing with every > effortless move, all was glowing and radiant. > > Have you seen "The Green Mile" ? The film is about this huge black > guy who's actually some sort of an angel who's nevertheless on death row in > Alabama in the 1930's. Before his execution they show him a movie, which > happens to be a Fred and Ginger film. As he sees them dancing to the song > "Cheek to Cheek", he squeals with delight, "They're angels, they're angels!" > He was right. > So don't picture me as Frank singing "My > Way", but rather as Fred singing "They Can't Take That Away From Me" to > Ginger in the mist as they're saying good-by on the Saten lsland Ferry. > > > love, > jerry > Jerry, you are beyond romantic..this is ultimate romantic purity, true devotional worship. This is St Francis and Claire, Heloise and Abelard. All I can do is sigh...in return. The Green Mile was a great movie, it had those moments that more than suspended disbelief..the true presence of an angel. Ahhhh, Gloria >> Thank you, Gloria. lt meant so much to have someone join me in heartfelt devotion to the romantic ideal, as truly expressed by Fred and Ginger. l always used to wonder how l wound up in 20th century America. l longed so much to be in 19th century Europe, in the Vienna of Strauss, Beethoven and Brahms; the Milan of Verdi; the Paris of Chopin and Liszt; the Moscow and Petersburg of Tolstoy. Surely, l thought, l must have been there, as an artist ... as something. As l progressed on the spiritual path, l let go of these thoughts more and more. But whenever l see Fred and Ginger, it all returns ... the absolutely heart aching longing for beauty, elegance, for union with a beautiful soulmate, for union with nature, for love in its most divine and radiant form. Yeah, l'm a hopeless romantic. l can't imagine anyone being moreso. l thought that one way or the other, l'd outgrow it as part of the natural process of aging. Maybe, l thought, the spiritual journey will lead me to more realistic, mature ground. l thought it was going that way at one time. But my long energy saga seems to have brought me back to it instead by opening my heart more fully. l have no choice but to trust there's room for all of it. You're such a dear, Gloria. l'm so glad that Fred and Ginger warm your heart too. love, jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 put over a song for sure, but Fred > was > > pure and sang from the heart, with no trace of ego. And when he danced with > > Ginger, as they did while the orchestra played "Let's Face the Music and > > Dance", in formal dress, her shimmering white gown flowing with every > > effortless move, all was glowing and radiant. > > > > Have you seen "The Green Mile" ? The film is about this huge black > > guy who's actually some sort of an angel who's nevertheless on death row in > > Alabama in the 1930's. Before his execution they show him a movie, which > > happens to be a Fred and Ginger film. As he sees them dancing to the song > > "Cheek to Cheek", he squeals with delight, "They're angels, they're > angels!" > > He was right. > > So don't picture me as Frank singing "My > > Way", but rather as Fred singing "They Can't Take That Away From Me" to > > Ginger in the mist as they're saying good-by on the Saten lsland Ferry. > > > > > > love, > > jerry > > > Jerry, you are beyond romantic..this is ultimate romantic purity, true > devotional worship. This is St Francis and Claire, Heloise and Abelard. All I > can do is sigh...in return. > > The Green Mile was a great movie, it had those moments that more than > suspended > disbelief..the true presence of an angel. > > Ahhhh, > Gloria >> > > > Thank you, Gloria. lt meant so much to have someone join me in heartfelt > devotion to the romantic ideal, as truly expressed by Fred and Ginger. l > always used to wonder how l wound up in 20th century America. l longed so > much to be in 19th century Europe, in the Vienna of Strauss, Beethoven and > Brahms; the Milan of Verdi; the Paris of Chopin and Liszt; the Moscow and > Petersburg of Tolstoy. Surely, l thought, l must have been there, as an > artist ... as something. Jerry, now I can better understand what the music meant to you..surely it transported you back in time. I am so glad you you feel able to express this here, because I too have this silly feeling of being out of place in this century. Haunted by the charms and elegance of what seems a classier era. Travel by horseback seems perfectly adequate to me. And I would love to wear those long gowns. Somehow music and art and poetry take me back or make life here more tolerable. Cathedrals as well. Forests and mountains. Oh, I absolutely understand what you mean. I once spent a summer reading nothing but those long Russian novels and in my soul I lived there. I am in love with so many long dead writers and artists.. I can't choose between longing to sacrifice myself taking care of them or being their source of inspiration..they usually had both kinds of women in their lives. Oh in another life I am Mary Cassatt, sacrificing all for my own art. The most appealing aspect of Christianity for me was those lives of the saints..to love God with one's whole being like that! My brother is a Civil War re-enactor and when I go to those events I can't help but wonder if they are not all still working out their feelings from being killed in the actual war or something. Anyway, I have to keep reminding myself of the good things about living now like medical care and other advances that reduce suffering. The times do seem to lack beauty and elegance tho...and romance is in short supply. Not the stuff in those stupid romance novels..I hope you know me better than to think that. As l progressed on the spiritual path, l let go of > these thoughts more and more. But whenever l see Fred and Ginger, it all > returns ... the absolutely heart aching longing for beauty, elegance, for > union with a beautiful soulmate, for union with nature, for love in its most > divine and radiant form. > > Yeah, l'm a hopeless romantic. l can't imagine anyone being > moreso. l thought that one way or the other, l'd outgrow it as part of the > natural process of aging. Maybe, l thought, the spiritual journey will lead > me to more realistic, mature ground. Jerry, some other time I will tell you my story about not outgrowing this... anyway, I have now learned to appreciate the romance of lawnmower repair and other such gifts of devotion. It's all in there, the beauty hiding in the mundane..and hey, sometimes there are flowers too. I think it's certainly most okay to have this romantic view of life, and one need not give it up so much as learn to expand one's definition. Even spiritually the "real" is also only apparently hiding the beautiful. So nice to talk with you, Jerry. Love, Gloria l thought it was going that way at one > time. But my long energy saga seems to have brought me back to it instead by > opening my heart more fully. l have no choice but to trust there's room for > all of it. > You're such a > dear, Gloria. l'm so glad that Fred and Ginger warm your heart too. > > love, > jerry > > ------ > GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION > TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR > $2. Click for details. > http://click./1/3014/5/_/520931/_/956852957/ > ------ > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. 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Guest guest Posted April 27, 2000 Report Share Posted April 27, 2000 put over a song for sure, but Fred > was > > pure and sang from the heart, with no trace of ego. And when he danced with > > Ginger, as they did while the orchestra played "Let's Face the Music and > > Dance", in formal dress, her shimmering white gown flowing with every > > effortless move, all was glowing and radiant. > > > > Have you seen "The Green Mile" ? The film is about this huge black > > guy who's actually some sort of an angel who's nevertheless on death row in > > Alabama in the 1930's. Before his execution they show him a movie, which > > happens to be a Fred and Ginger film. As he sees them dancing to the song > > "Cheek to Cheek", he squeals with delight, "They're angels, they're > angels!" > > He was right. > > So don't picture me as Frank singing "My > > Way", but rather as Fred singing "They Can't Take That Away From Me" to > > Ginger in the mist as they're saying good-by on the Saten lsland Ferry. > > > > > > love, > > jerry > > > Jerry, you are beyond romantic..this is ultimate romantic purity, true > devotional worship. This is St Francis and Claire, Heloise and Abelard. All I > can do is sigh...in return. > > The Green Mile was a great movie, it had those moments that more than > suspended > disbelief..the true presence of an angel. > > Ahhhh, > Gloria >> > > > Thank you, Gloria. lt meant so much to have someone join me in heartfelt > devotion to the romantic ideal, as truly expressed by Fred and Ginger. l > always used to wonder how l wound up in 20th century America. l longed so > much to be in 19th century Europe, in the Vienna of Strauss, Beethoven and > Brahms; the Milan of Verdi; the Paris of Chopin and Liszt; the Moscow and > Petersburg of Tolstoy. Surely, l thought, l must have been there, as an > artist ... as something. Jerry, now I can better understand what the music meant to you..surely it transported you back in time. I am so glad you you feel able to express this here, because I too have this silly feeling of being out of place in this century. Haunted by the charms and elegance of what seems a classier era. Travel by horseback seems perfectly adequate to me. And I would love to wear those long gowns. Somehow music and art and poetry take me back or make life here more tolerable. Cathedrals as well. Forests and mountains. Oh, I absolutely understand what you mean. I once spent a summer reading nothing but those long Russian novels and in my soul I lived there. I am in love with so many long dead writers and artists.. I can't choose between longing to sacrifice myself taking care of them or being their source of inspiration..they usually had both kinds of women in their lives. Oh in another life I am Mary Cassatt, sacrificing all for my own art. The most appealing aspect of Christianity for me was those lives of the saints..to love God with one's whole being like that! My brother is a Civil War re-enactor and when I go to those events I can't help but wonder if they are not all still working out their feelings from being killed in the actual war or something. Anyway, I have to keep reminding myself of the good things about living now like medical care and other advances that reduce suffering. The times do seem to lack beauty and elegance tho...and romance is in short supply. Not the stuff in those stupid romance novels..I hope you know me better than to think that. As l progressed on the spiritual path, l let go of > these thoughts more and more. But whenever l see Fred and Ginger, it all > returns ... the absolutely heart aching longing for beauty, elegance, for > union with a beautiful soulmate, for union with nature, for love in its most > divine and radiant form. > > Yeah, l'm a hopeless romantic. l can't imagine anyone being > moreso. l thought that one way or the other, l'd outgrow it as part of the > natural process of aging. Maybe, l thought, the spiritual journey will lead > me to more realistic, mature ground. Jerry, some other time I will tell you my story about not outgrowing this... anyway, I have now learned to appreciate the romance of lawnmower repair and other such gifts of devotion. It's all in there, the beauty hiding in the mundane..and hey, sometimes there are flowers too. I think it's certainly most okay to have this romantic view of life, and one need not give it up so much as learn to expand one's definition. Even spiritually the "real" is also only apparently hiding the beautiful. Being naturally inclined to devotional worship is probably an advantage when understood. So nice to talk with you, Jerry. Love, Gloria l thought it was going that way at one > time. But my long energy saga seems to have brought me back to it instead by > opening my heart more fully. l have no choice but to trust there's room for > all of it. > You're such a > dear, Gloria. lm so glad that Fred and Ginger warm your heart too. > > love, > jerry > > ------ > GET WHO WANTS TO BE A MILLIONAIRE FREE! GET THE OFFICIAL COMPANION > TO TELEVISION'S HOTTEST GAME SHOW PHENOMENON PLUS 5 MORE BOOKS FOR > $2. Click for details. > http://click./1/3014/5/_/520931/_/956852957/ > ------ > > // > > All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a. > > To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at > www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar > on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription > between digest and normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2000 Report Share Posted April 28, 2000 Gloria, l just wanted to briefly thank you for the wonderful post yesterday. l've been a little pressed last couple days, but l hope to be able to do it some justice tomorrow. jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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