(unknown)

November 11, 2002

om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

Dear Maralena,

Sorry I couldn't read the file which you kindly uploaded. This computer

can't read it.

However this may be of interest (see below).

(Fr. Henri le Saux was Fr. Bede Griffiths predecessor at Shantivanam.)

http://www.bedegriffiths.com/Satsang/satsang_5.htm

---------

Satsang with Fr. Bede

Satsang is a Sanskrit word meaning the coming together (sanga) of those who

are seeking God, Truth, Being (Sat).

Q: Father Bede, you so often spoke of the center or depth within us that can

be known only by experience. Can you describe that center and say how it

is related to what the Hindus call the ³eternal religion?²

A: This eternal religion is to be found in every religion as its ground or

source, but it is beyond all formulation. It is the reality behind all

rites, the truth behind all dogmas, the justice behind all laws. But it is

always to be found in the heart of every man. It is the law ³written on

their hearts.² It is not known by sense or reason but by the experience of

the soul in its depths. Of this it has been said: ³Thy natural sense cannot

possess God or unite thee to him; nay, the inward faculties of

understanding, will, and memory, can only reach after God, but cannot be the

place of his habitation in thee. But there is a root or depth in thee from

whence all these faculties come forth, as lines from a center or as branches

from the body of the true. This depth is called the Center, the Fund or

Bottom of the soul. This depth is the unity, the eternity. I had almost said

the infinity of thy soul; for it is so infinite that nothing can satisfy it

or give it any rest but the infinity of God.² It is in this depth that all

true religion is to be found. It is the source from which all religion

springs, the goal to which it aspires, and it is present in the heart of

every man. It was from this Center that man fell and it is to this Center

that he must return. Every religion seeks to make this known and to map out

the path of return.

Each man must therefore discover this Center in himself, this Ground of his

being, this Law of his life. It is hidden in the depths of every soul,

waiting to be discovered. It is the treasured hidden in a field, the pearl

of great price. It is the one thing which is necessary, which can satisfy

all our desires and answer all our needs. But it is hidden now under deep

layers of habit and convention. The world builds up a great protective

barrier round it. It is the original paradise from which we have all come‹as

Wordsworth said, ³Heaven lies about us in our infancy.² We were all once

innocent and pure and holy, as we came from God, but we have fallen into

this world, and an angel with a flaming sword prevents our return. All these

mysteries are hidden in the unconscious. There still stands the original

paradise, there the Fall takes place in each one of us. The trauma of birth

into this world. There the layers of habit and convention are formed,

binding us to this world, beginning their work while we are yet in the womb,

weaving the great web of maya, which hides us from our true Self and makes

us aliens from our home. . But everywhere the path of return is to be found.

Every myth and ritual of primitive religions is a revelation of the hidden

mysteries of the unconscious and a pathway to the discovery of the Self.

Top of page | Back to Satsang Index

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E-mail

November 11, 2002

RamanaMaharshi, Miles Wright <ramana.bhakta@v...> wrote:

> om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

>

> Dear Maralena,

>

> Sorry I couldn't read the file which you kindly uploaded. This

computer

> can't read it.

> However this may be of interest (see below).

>

> (Fr. Henri le Saux was Fr. Bede Griffiths predecessor at

Shantivanam.)

>

> http://www.bedegriffiths.com/Satsang/satsang_5.htm

> ---------

> Satsang with Fr. Bede

> Satsang is a Sanskrit word meaning the coming together (sanga) of

those who

> are seeking God, Truth, Being (Sat).

>

> Q: Father Bede, you so often spoke of the center or depth within us

that can

> be known only by experience. Can you describe that center and say

how it

> is related to what the Hindus call the ³eternal religion?²

>

> A: This eternal religion is to be found in every religion as its

ground or

> source, but it is beyond all formulation. It is the reality behind

all

> rites, the truth behind all dogmas, the justice behind all laws.

But it is

> always to be found in the heart of every man. It is the law

³written on

> their hearts.² It is not known by sense or reason but by the

experience of

> the soul in its depths. Of this it has been said: ³Thy natural

sense cannot

> possess God or unite thee to him; nay, the inward faculties of

> understanding, will, and memory, can only reach after God, but

cannot be the

> place of his habitation in thee. But there is a root or depth in

thee from

> whence all these faculties come forth, as lines from a center or as

branches

> from the body of the true. This depth is called the Center, the

Fund or

> Bottom of the soul. This depth is the unity, the eternity. I had

almost said

> the infinity of thy soul; for it is so infinite that nothing can

satisfy it

> or give it any rest but the infinity of God.² It is in this depth

that all

> true religion is to be found. It is the source from which all

religion

> springs, the goal to which it aspires, and it is present in the

heart of

> every man. It was from this Center that man fell and it is to this

Center

> that he must return. Every religion seeks to make this known and to

map out

> the path of return.

>

> Each man must therefore discover this Center in himself, this

Ground of his

> being, this Law of his life. It is hidden in the depths of every

soul,

> waiting to be discovered. It is the treasured hidden in a field,

the pearl

> of great price. It is the one thing which is necessary, which can

satisfy

> all our desires and answer all our needs. But it is hidden now

under deep

> layers of habit and convention. The world builds up a great

protective

> barrier round it. It is the original paradise from which we have

all come‹as

> Wordsworth said, ³Heaven lies about us in our infancy.² We were all

once

> innocent and pure and holy, as we came from God, but we have fallen

into

> this world, and an angel with a flaming sword prevents our return.

All these

> mysteries are hidden in the unconscious. There still stands the

original

> paradise, there the Fall takes place in each one of us. The trauma

of birth

> into this world. There the layers of habit and convention are

formed,

> binding us to this world, beginning their work while we are yet in

the womb,

> weaving the great web of maya, which hides us from our true Self

and makes

> us aliens from our home. . But everywhere the path of return is to

be found.

> Every myth and ritual of primitive religions is a revelation of the

hidden

> mysteries of the unconscious and a pathway to the discovery of the

Self.

>

> Top of page | Back to Satsang Index

>

> --

----

> 2001-2002 Bede Griffiths Association. All rights

reserved.

> E-mail

Thank you so much for your wonderful reply. If you would like to see

the article in full, I would be happy to email it to you. You can

email me at: Teawhiskers and I will sent it to you. I

appreciated the satsang message, and it rings very true. Namaste.

Maralena

September 29, 2003

Absolutely...not an iota of doubt about it.

love

Yamini

--- sridhar lukka <shridharlukka wrote:

> We may believe that guru remains even after His

> delusion of physical baody.

> But how a devotee can come across His blessings. It

> may be true to some

> people who got initiation from Him .Can it be the

> same with new devotees?

>

_______________

> Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra

> Jetstream @

> http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

>

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September 30, 2003

I think that there might be a way to the devotees to approach the truth.I

heard from my friend that aperson staying for 40 days will have some

benefit and those who perform certain type of pooja will have benefit.

There might be a way simply saying no doubt is not a complete answer.

L.Sridhar

>Yamini Gourishankar <yaminigs

>RamanaMaharshi

>Re: [RamanaMaharshi] (unknown)

>Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:05:04 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Absolutely...not an iota of doubt about it.

>

>love

>Yamini

>--- sridhar lukka <shridharlukka wrote:

> > We may believe that guru remains even after His

> > delusion of physical baody.

> > But how a devotee can come across His blessings. It

> > may be true to some

> > people who got initiation from Him .Can it be the

> > same with new devotees?

> >

>_______________

> > Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra

> > Jetstream @

> > http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

> >

>

>The New with improved product search

>

_______________

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September 30, 2003

om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

Dear L.Sridhar

> We may believe that guru remains even after His delusion of physical baody.

> But how a devotee can come across His blessings. It may be true to some

> people who got initiation from Him .Can it be the same with new devotees?

Arthur Osborne also observed the following:

'But surely this continued guidance after leaving the body is unusual! Yes, it

is unusual; but who is to bind Divine Providense with regulations? The

circumstances also are unusual. ]...the formless path the Maharshi prescribed

compensates for the modern difficulty in finding adequate puidance within the

forms of any religion; similarly, the invisible Guru may compensate for the

modern difficulty in finding a fully potent living Guru on earth. Such

explanations are for those who like to speculate; for those who are content to

strive on the path, guidance is there.

This invisible guidance also has an effect on the Ashram. It means that many or

most of those who come [or merely contact], both from India and abroad, are new

people who never saw the Maharshi in his lifetime but have been drawn to him in

various ways since then.

The conclusion, then, is that if you are a ritualist or strict formalist, if you

crave material boons, if you seek visions or powers, there are other places

better suited to you than Ramanashram. But if you have understood the ultimate

spiritual goal of liberation and seek grace and guidance on the path, you will

find it at Ramanashram.' (from Surpassing Love and Grace, Sri Ranamashramam;

2001

September 30, 2003

Dear Sridhar,

That statement was made from the experiences/changes

that this mind has undergone since the readings on

Ramana. Never met "Ramana" in his physical form.

The bottomline is for the mind to still. To that

purpose rituals/meditation or any other method that

suits one is used.

Trust/absolute faith and 100% optimism in whatever

method/tool one uses help as a means.

Of course at the end it dawns that nothing need to be

done..but till that dawning takes place, one does what

that mind is destined to do. (Words are limitations to

describe "That"...the active mind(s) interpret the

words in so many ways that what was actually meant

does not get conveyed in the right manner..added to

that is the limited vocabulary :-))

love

Yamini

--- sridhar lukka <shridharlukka wrote:

> I think that there might be a way to the devotees to

> approach the truth.I

> heard from my friend that aperson staying for 40

> days will have some

> benefit and those who perform certain type of pooja

> will have benefit.

> There might be a way simply saying no doubt is not

> a complete answer.

> L.Sridhar

>

> >Yamini Gourishankar <yaminigs

> >RamanaMaharshi

> >Re: [RamanaMaharshi] (unknown)

> >Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:05:04 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >Absolutely...not an iota of doubt about it.

> >

> >love

> >Yamini

> >--- sridhar lukka <shridharlukka

> wrote:

> > > We may believe that guru remains even after His

> > > delusion of physical baody.

> > > But how a devotee can come across His

> blessings. It

> > > may be true to some

> > > people who got initiation from Him .Can it be

> the

> > > same with new devotees?

> > >

>

>_______________

> > > Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra

> > > Jetstream @

> > > http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

> > >

> >

> >The New with improved product

> search

> >

>

_______________

> Gaming galore at http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming !

>

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October 1, 2003

Dear Friend,

I once knew a man who was an American cowboy. He had

a dream one night when he was a young man. In the

cowboy's dream he saw a strange looking man who

performed some kind of ceremony. After that dream the

cowboy felt blessed.

Many years passed but the cowboy never forgot the

dream or the blessing. One day while in a bookstore,

he saw a picture of Ramana. He instantly recognized

Ramana as the man in the dream. He immediately read

about Ramana and went straight away to Tiru.

His life was positively changed at once.

Love,

michael

--- sridhar lukka <shridharlukka wrote:

> We may believe that guru remains even after His

> delusion of physical baody.

> But how a devotee can come across His blessings. It

> may be true to some

> people who got initiation from Him .Can it be the

> same with new devotees?

>

_______________

> Surf the net and talk on the phone with Xtra

> Jetstream @

> http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !

>

The New with improved product search

November 29, 2003

> SCDee55

> 2003/11/29 Sat AM 11:53:07 EST

>

> (unknown)

>

Harsha, so glad to hear that your father is improving!

Dee

*************

Thank you Dee and everyone for all the warm wishes.

I told my father that I had asked the sangha to pray for him and he had smiled

upon hearing it.

I will try to respond to all the kind personal mails in the next couple of

weeks.

God bless you all with all good things.

May all beings be free from sorrow and be in comfort and peace.

Love to all

Harsha

"Love itself is the actual form of God."

Ramana Maharshi

January 22, 2004

Recently, I was in a used bookstore and on the shelf

was an old copy of The Vision, published in India by

Papa Ramdass. The manager was surprised, because the

bookstore does not sell magazines and that there was

no price in it. Here is an article in it from May

1950.

SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI

A sun of rare spiritual brilliance has set. Sri

Ramana Maharshi renounced his body on the night of

14th April 1950 at his ashram in Tirvannamalai. His

passing away has produced a most conspicuous void in

our world today. Thousands of his devotees in India

and foreigh countries are feeling the loss most

sorrowfully. We can take consolation in the fact that

since Sri Ramana, as the Supreme Spirit, is

imperishable, He dwells always in the hearts of us

all. For, He was the very incarnation of the Divine.

Sri Ramana was a Savior of souls. The men and

women who went to him for spiritual illumination

returned with their hearts filled with divine peace

and joy. His look was most dynamic. When He cast His

gaze on any aspirant, who stod or sat before Him, it

electrified the person and entirely turned the course

of his life Godward. Sometimes it shook the very

foundation of that person's life and surcharged it

with unutterable peace and ecstasy. Vast numbers,

from different countries and nationalities today look

to Him as a great redeeming spiritual force that would

bring about a regeneration in the life of humanity.

Here Ramdas must say a few words about his

personal contact with Sri Ramana. It way 27 years

ago(in 1923) that Ramdas was drawn to Him and had the

brief contact of about five minutes with Him. But

these five minutes werre for him pregnant with immense

spiritual significance and possibility. When Sri

Ramana intently gazed on Ramdas and the eyes of both

met, Ramdas felt He was pouring into him His spiritual

power and grace in abundance, so much so that Ramdas

was thrilled, as His divine light shined on his mind,

heart and soul. Sri Ramana's eyes always radiated a

splendour, which was simply unique and irrestob;e-a

s[;emdpir. ,omg;ed wotj omfomote temdermess.

compassion and mercy. The few minutes that Ramdas

spent in His holy company meant a momentous impetus in

his spiritual career.

With the above few words of loving tribute to Sri

Ramana Maharshi, Ramdas offers his humble salutations

to Him. May His Spirit ever illuminate the hearts of

all His devotees is the earnest prayer of His child.

End

Ramana from your loving friend Ramdas "Om Sri Ram

Iai Ram Jai Jai Ram."

Love to you

Michael

--- durga <durgaji108 wrote:

> Sometime back Harsha asked if people would post

> their favorite

> stories about Ramana Maharshi. I couldn't find this

> book at the

> time, but would like to post this story now. It is

> taken from the

> book "In Quest of God", the autobiography of Swami

> (Papa) Ramdas of

> Kerala. Papa Ramdas died in 1963. I had read this

> book many times,

> but had not known until 1993, that Ramdas's meeting

> with the Maharshi

> was the point of his awakening.

>

> In 1993 I was visiting Anandamayi Ma's ashram in

> Khankal, outside of

> Hardwar, and there met a French man, Swami

> Vijayananda, who had been

> living in India for 40 years as a disciple of Ma's.

> Swami

> Vijayananda left France at the end of WW 2 to go on

> a spiritual

> journey to India. He met many saints, including my

> own guru, Neem

> Karoli Baba, and Papa Ramdas, whom he described as

> the happiest, most

> childlike person he had ever known.

>

> A friend of mine told me the other day that Swami

> Vijayananda is

> still alive and living in Khankal. He is still to

> be found talking

> with the westerners in the evening after arti at

> Ma's ashram.

>

----

> ----------

> Here is the story from "In Quest of God" the

> autobiography written by

> Ramdas, which is narrated in the third person:

>

> One day, a kind [friend] took him [Ramdas] for the

> darshan of a

> famous Saint of the place, named Sri Ramana

> Maharshi. His ashram was

> at the foot of the Tiruvanamalai mountains. It was

> a thatched shed.

> Both the visitors entered the ashram, and meeting

> the Saint, fell

> prostrate at this holy feet. It was really a

> blessed place where

> that great man lived. He was young, but there was

> on his face a

> calmness, and in his large eyes a passionless look

> of tenderness,

> which cast a spell of peace and joy on all those who

> came to him.

> Ramdas was informed that the Saint knew English. So

> he addressed him

> thus:

>

> "Maharaj, here stands before thee a humble slave.

> Have pity on him.

> His only prayer to thee is to give him thy

> blessing."

>

> The Maharshi, turning his beautiful eyes toward

> Ramdas, and looking

> intently for a few minutes into his eyes as though

> he was pouring

> into Ramdas his blessing through those orbs, shook

> his head to say

> that he had blessed. A thrill of inexpressible joy

> coursed through

> the frame of Ramdas, his whole body quivering like a

> leaf in the

> breeze. O Ram, what a love is Thine! ...

>

/join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>

> Links

>

> /

>

> Your

>

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January 22, 2004

Dear Durga and Michael:

Thank you both for your wonderful stories.

Harsha's request that we post stories was such a blessing for the list.

In addition to what I have read here, I have been wandering around the internet

and finding stories I have seen and read before and ones which are new to me.

May we all shine in His Grace...

Love,

Joyce

-

michael mccarthy

Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:33 PM

Re: (unknown)

Recently, I was in a used bookstore and on the shelfwas an old copy of

The Vision, published in India byPapa Ramdass. The manager was

surprised, because thebookstore does not sell magazines and that

there wasno price in it. Here is an article in it from May1950.

SRI RAMANA MAHARSHI A sun of rare spiritual brilliance

has set. SriRamana Maharshi renounced his body on the night of14th

April 1950 at his ashram in Tirvannamalai. Hispassing away has

produced a most conspicuous void inour world today. Thousands of his

devotees in Indiaand foreigh countries are feeling the loss

mostsorrowfully. We can take consolation in the fact thatsince Sri

Ramana, as the Supreme Spirit, isimperishable, He dwells always in

the hearts of usall. For, He was the very incarnation of the Divine.

Sri Ramana was a Savior of souls. The men andwomen who went to

him for spiritual illuminationreturned with their hearts filled with

divine peaceand joy. His look was most dynamic. When He cast

Hisgaze on any aspirant, who stod or sat before Him, itelectrified

the person and entirely turned the courseof his life Godward.

Sometimes it shook the veryfoundation of that person's life and

surcharged itwith unutterable peace and ecstasy. Vast numbers,from

different countries and nationalities today lookto Him as a great

redeeming spiritual force that wouldbring about a regeneration in the

life of humanity. Here Ramdas must say a few words about

hispersonal contact with Sri Ramana. It way 27 yearsago(in 1923)

that Ramdas was drawn to Him and had thebrief contact of about five

minutes with Him. Butthese five minutes werre for him pregnant with

immensespiritual significance and possibility. When SriRamana

intently gazed on Ramdas and the eyes of bothmet, Ramdas felt He was

pouring into him His spiritualpower and grace in abundance, so much

so that Ramdaswas thrilled, as His divine light shined on his

mind,heart and soul. Sri Ramana's eyes always radiated asplendour,

which was simply unique and irrestob;e-as[;emdpir. ,omg;ed wotj

omfomote temdermess.compassion and mercy. The few minutes that

Ramdasspent in His holy company meant a momentous impetus inhis

spiritual career. With the above few words of loving tribute to

SriRamana Maharshi, Ramdas offers his humble salutationsto Him. May

His Spirit ever illuminate the hearts ofall His devotees is the

earnest prayer of His child.End Ramana from your loving friend

Ramdas "Om Sri RamIai Ram Jai Jai Ram."Love to youMichael--- durga

<durgaji108 > wrote:> Sometime back Harsha asked if people

would post> their favorite > stories about Ramana Maharshi. I

couldn't find this> book at the > time, but would like to post this

story now. It is> taken from the > book "In Quest of God", the

autobiography of Swami> (Papa) Ramdas of > Kerala. Papa Ramdas died

in 1963. I had read this> book many times, > but had not known until

1993, that Ramdas's meeting> with the Maharshi > was the point of his

awakening.> > In 1993 I was visiting Anandamayi Ma's ashram in>

Khankal, outside of > Hardwar, and there met a French man, Swami>

Vijayananda, who had been > living in India for 40 years as a

disciple of Ma's. > Swami > Vijayananda left France at the end of WW

2 to go on> a spiritual > journey to India. He met many saints,

including my> own guru, Neem > Karoli Baba, and Papa Ramdas, whom he

described as> the happiest, most > childlike person he had ever

known.> > A friend of mine told me the other day that Swami>

Vijayananda is > still alive and living in Khankal. He is still to>

be found talking > with the westerners in the evening after arti at>

Ma's

ashram.>---->

----------> Here is the story from "In Quest of God" the>

autobiography written by > Ramdas, which is narrated in the third

person:> > One day, a kind [friend] took him [Ramdas] for the>

darshan of a > famous Saint of the place, named Sri Ramana> Maharshi.

His ashram was > at the foot of the Tiruvanamalai mountains. It was>

a thatched shed. > Both the visitors entered the ashram, and meeting>

the Saint, fell > prostrate at this holy feet. It was really a>

blessed place where > that great man lived. He was young, but there

was> on his face a > calmness, and in his large eyes a passionless

look> of tenderness, > which cast a spell of peace and joy on all

those who> came to him. > Ramdas was informed that the Saint knew

English. So> he addressed him > thus:> > "Maharaj, here stands

before thee a humble slave. > Have pity on him. > His only prayer to

thee is to give him thy> blessing."> > The Maharshi, turning his

beautiful eyes toward> Ramdas, and looking > intently for a few

minutes into his eyes as though> he was pouring > into Ramdas his

blessing through those orbs, shook> his head to say > that he had

blessed. A thrill of inexpressible joy> coursed through > the frame

of Ramdas, his whole body quivering like a> leaf in the > breeze. O

Ram, what a love is Thine! ...> > > > > > > >

/join> >

> > > > "Love

itself is the actual form of God."> > Sri Ramana> > In "Letters from

Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma > > Links> > To visit

your group on the web, go to:>

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March 3, 2004

Dear Bobby

what a pleasure to read such an enlightened mail.

What you are telling is so simple and true - and this simple and true

facts are always a cause for bloodshed.

Billions of people have given their lifes because of the madness of the majority.

Till now Michael "I" could not adjust to this fact of "life" because

life was is and will always be LOVE - in spite of all whats going on.

I do have - seemingly LOL - to accept to conclusion I came to realize:

its all only a film on a screen, without any "reality". Reality for

"me" is only IT is only

I AM WHO I AM is only LOVE what for "me" is the same

That what I try my best to life 24hours for 24hours instead of all

falling in traps of mind feeling sentiments and so on....

Stubborn as I am I stand up again again and again.....

Would like to hear from you again

May joy engulf you

michael bindel

-

texasbg2000

Monday, March 01, 2004 5:26 PM

(unknown)

Dear Michael:This article by Rabbi Spiro was very enlightening. This

historical perspecive on the persecution of Jews because of the

passion of Christ is an important one.When religions fight it out it

is a terrible thing. About Jews, I think a distinction needs to be

made between the religion and the people. The Jewish religion is

made obsolete in the true Christian's mind and not the people. The

new law of Jesus supercedes the old law of Moses and the guilt of

the fall of Adam is done away with by the sacrifice of the Lamb. For

modern Christians, Judaism just rises to a new level with

Christianity. For modern religious Jews this distinction is not

valid, but it is widely understood as the mindset of Christian

theology. I think most Christians however lack empathy with the

Jews, and the Jews, knowing this, are very cautious about

inflammatory events. However the hoopla over this movie has made the

event much bigger. For myself, since I am more inclined to Yoga than

religion, the error of transfering the mistakes of individuals of

Christ's time to the group to which they belong (Jews), is the error

of confounding the specific for the general. An error which is

common and difficult to spot for emotionally charged minds. It is an

error of similars being confounded one for the other. Other errors

like this are confounding the relative for the absolute, and the

abstract for the concrete. The root of these mistakes is confounding

the mind for the Self, the most basic of the confusion of similars.So

I would say, let the hoopla die down because censorship is a big

issue today and will cloud already soggy minds. LoveBobby

G./join

"Love itself

is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

March 3, 2004

, "Michael Bindel"

<michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

Dear Michael:

I agree with you that reality is who I am (>Reality for "me" is only

IT is only > I AM WHO I AM is only LOVE what for "me" is the

same.)

And I think that being stubborn about standing up again and again to

remember this is a lovely attribute.

Love

Bobby G.

> Dear Bobby

>

> what a pleasure to read such an enlightened mail.

> What you are telling is so simple and true - and this simple and

true facts are always a cause for bloodshed.

> Billions of people have given their lifes because of the madness of

the majority.

> Till now Michael "I" could not adjust to this fact of "life"

because life was is and will always be LOVE - in spite of all whats

going on.

> I do have - seemingly LOL - to accept to conclusion I came to

realize:

> its all only a film on a screen, without any "reality". Reality

for "me" is only IT is only

> I AM WHO I AM is only LOVE what for "me" is the same

> That what I try my best to life 24hours for 24hours instead of all

falling in traps of mind feeling sentiments and so on....

> Stubborn as I am I stand up again again and again.....

> Would like to hear from you again

>

> May joy engulf you

>

> michael bindel

>

> -

> texasbg2000

>

> Monday, March 01, 2004 5:26 PM

> (unknown)

>

> Dear Michael:

>

> This article by Rabbi Spiro was very enlightening. This

historical

> perspecive on the persecution of Jews because of the passion of

> Christ is an important one.

>

> When religions fight it out it is a terrible thing.

>

> About Jews, I think a distinction needs to be made between the

> religion and the people. The Jewish religion is made obsolete in

the

> true Christian's mind and not the people. The new law of Jesus

> supercedes the old law of Moses and the guilt of the fall of Adam

is

> done away with by the sacrifice of the Lamb.

>

> For modern Christians, Judaism just rises to a new level with

> Christianity. For modern religious Jews this distinction is not

> valid, but it is widely understood as the mindset of Christian

> theology.

>

> I think most Christians however lack empathy with the Jews, and

the

> Jews, knowing this, are very cautious about inflammatory events.

> However the hoopla over this movie has made the event much

bigger.

>

> For myself, since I am more inclined to Yoga than religion, the

error

> of transfering the mistakes of individuals of Christ's time to

the

> group to which they belong (Jews), is the error of confounding

the

> specific for the general. An error which is common and difficult

to

> spot for emotionally charged minds.

>

> It is an error of similars being confounded one for the other.

Other

> errors like this are confounding the relative for the absolute,

and

> the abstract for the concrete. The root of these mistakes is

> confounding the mind for the Self, the most basic of the

confusion of

> similars.

>

> So I would say, let the hoopla die down because censorship is a

big

> issue today and will cloud already soggy minds.

>

> Love

> Bobby G.

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>

> --

----------

> Links

>

> /

>

> b..

>

> c.. Terms of

Service.

March 3, 2004

Dear Bobby

thank you so much!

Have a good day!

michael

-

"texasbg2000" <Bigbobgraham

<>

Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:51 PM

Re: (unknown)

> , "Michael Bindel"

> <michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

>

> Dear Michael:

>

> I agree with you that reality is who I am (>Reality for "me" is only

> IT is only > I AM WHO I AM is only LOVE what for "me" is the

> same.)

>

> And I think that being stubborn about standing up again and again to

> remember this is a lovely attribute.

>

> Love

> Bobby G.

>

> > Dear Bobby

> >

> > what a pleasure to read such an enlightened mail.

> > What you are telling is so simple and true - and this simple and

> true facts are always a cause for bloodshed.

> > Billions of people have given their lifes because of the madness of

> the majority.

> > Till now Michael "I" could not adjust to this fact of "life"

> because life was is and will always be LOVE - in spite of all whats

> going on.

> > I do have - seemingly LOL - to accept to conclusion I came to

> realize:

> > its all only a film on a screen, without any "reality". Reality

> for "me" is only IT is only

> > I AM WHO I AM is only LOVE what for "me" is the same

> > That what I try my best to life 24hours for 24hours instead of all

> falling in traps of mind feeling sentiments and so on....

> > Stubborn as I am I stand up again again and again.....

> > Would like to hear from you again

> >

> > May joy engulf you

> >

> > michael bindel

> >

> > -

> > texasbg2000

> >

> > Monday, March 01, 2004 5:26 PM

> > (unknown)

> >

> > Dear Michael:

> >

> > This article by Rabbi Spiro was very enlightening. This

> historical

> > perspecive on the persecution of Jews because of the passion of

> > Christ is an important one.

> >

> > When religions fight it out it is a terrible thing.

> >

> > About Jews, I think a distinction needs to be made between the

> > religion and the people. The Jewish religion is made obsolete in

> the

> > true Christian's mind and not the people. The new law of Jesus

> > supercedes the old law of Moses and the guilt of the fall of Adam

> is

> > done away with by the sacrifice of the Lamb.

> >

> > For modern Christians, Judaism just rises to a new level with

> > Christianity. For modern religious Jews this distinction is not

> > valid, but it is widely understood as the mindset of Christian

> > theology.

> >

> > I think most Christians however lack empathy with the Jews, and

> the

> > Jews, knowing this, are very cautious about inflammatory events.

> > However the hoopla over this movie has made the event much

> bigger.

> >

> > For myself, since I am more inclined to Yoga than religion, the

> error

> > of transfering the mistakes of individuals of Christ's time to

> the

> > group to which they belong (Jews), is the error of confounding

> the

> > specific for the general. An error which is common and difficult

> to

> > spot for emotionally charged minds.

> >

> > It is an error of similars being confounded one for the other.

> Other

> > errors like this are confounding the relative for the absolute,

> and

> > the abstract for the concrete. The root of these mistakes is

> > confounding the mind for the Self, the most basic of the

> confusion of

> > similars.

> >

> > So I would say, let the hoopla die down because censorship is a

> big

> > issue today and will cloud already soggy minds.

> >

> > Love

> > Bobby G.

> >

> > /join

> >

> > "Love itself is the actual form of God."

> >

> > Sri Ramana

> >

> > In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> >

> > --

> ----------

> > Links

> >

> > /

> >

> > b..

> >

> > c.. Terms of

> Service.

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

March 3, 2004

--- Tony OClery <aoclery wrote:

> , "Michael

> Bindel"

> <michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

> > Dear Tony,

> >

> > please

> >

> > who was this "Sylvia" and how did this name come

> the Israel?

> >

> > thank you

> >

> > michael bindel

>

> Namaste,

>

> She was an early associatae of Stephen it seems and

> was stoned at

> the same time for heresy. At this time and others

> there were many

> different people in Palestine, a lot of Greeks and

> mixed marriages

> as well. Especially in the Essenes/Christians who

> had all nations in

> there, and an association with the Buddhists in

> Alexandrea and at

> Tadmor in Syria. It seems the Essenes/Christians

> also had an

> association with groups in Jaganath, Kasi as

> well..........ONS..>

>

Dear Tony,

You don't know that any of this stuff that you just

wrote is a fact! You have no factual knowledge of any

of that.

mike

March 4, 2004

Dear Tony,

thank you for your effort in letting me know your point of view.

I appreciate very much indeed the way you do it!

Really.

Enjoy yourself!

michael bindel

-

"Tony OClery" <aoclery

<>

Friday, March 05, 2004 1:31 AM

(unknown)

> , "Michael Bindel"

> <michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

> > enclosed you find an article which might be of interest

> >

> > michael bindel

>

> Namaste Michael,

>

> There is always going to be sides in any drama. Nelson was killed at

> the battle of trafalgar by the French, does that mean the English

> are generally anti-French. General Dyer massacred Sikhs at Amritsar,

> does this mean all Sikhs are anti English?

> Let me show you something in the link you posted.

>

> "Paul, the most important personality in the history of the church,

> makes a special point of blaming the Jews for the death of

> Jesus: "[the Jews] killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and

> persecuted us. (Thessalonians 2:15-16"

>

> If you looked at the post I made on Pharisees and Sadducees, you

> would see that the Sadduccees had been persecuting everyone. You

> will notice Saul/Paul says Jesus and!! the PROPHETS!!, so others had

> been killed before Jesus. Most of the soothsayers and prophets came

> out of the Essenic/Kabbalistic movement. Apart from the general

> population there were about 7,000 Pharisees, 3,000 Sadducees, and

> 4,000 Essenics and growing.

>

> Unfortunatley as the Sadducees were the rulers, and controlled the

> temple, they have become identifiable as the Judaics or Jews, as

> opposed to Pharisees and Essenes. Saul/Paul himself was an admitted

> Pharisee even when he was organising what later become known as

> Christianity in Antioch.

>

> I saw the movie and didn't find it anti-semitic at all, the only

> mistake he made was mixing up his Sadducees and Pharisees. Hence

> this problem today. Yes the violence was heavy but not gratuitous,

> it was necessary to the message of the Passion or Stations of the

> Cross the Catholics call it. A film of the Mahabharata war or

> Ramayana war in Lanka would have been equally violent, or any war.

> The whole message was an extreme and violent death, taking on karma,

> and then a resurrection. I believe that he became a Mukta on the

> Cross and then re-energised Himself as the Krista or Christ. Some

> say the actual greek word comes from Krista or Krishna itself.

>

> I think it would have been better left commenting on, for it is only

> raising spectres, and politicising it. Michael you are forgetting

> one thing, this movie was made for Christians who already know the

> story detail by detail. Does it not say in the old testament in

> Isaiah, that the Messiah/Avatar/Mukta will be beaten over every inch

> of his body!!!!!!!!!Let us not make political capital out of this

> and just take it for what it was made for. Getting into the anti

> semitic thing just raises all kinds of questions and controversies

> believe me, especially in this modern world.

>

> There are far more violent films and they are gratuitous, this is

> disturbing but for a valid reason. If Jesus hadn't died thus you

> wouldn't be talking of him now. He was an avatar of love in a world

> gone mad, with more divisions than today, especially in Palestine

> and the Roman Empire....Jesus was rebalancing not only at the daily

> level but also at the subconscious pattern level of the common human

> mind..........ONS...Tony.

>

> Remember also that Aversion is just Attachment in reverse!!My last

> word is that the movie was not anti semitic.

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

May 13, 2004

om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

Dear David,

> Thank you for giving me the opportunity to formulate a few of my own thoughts

> on this matter.

Thank you very much for this informative post. Although this computer refuses to

open .doc files, I was able to read it in its entirety in the post to

RamanaMaharshi Group. A reminder of Bhagavan's bhakti is a refreshing gust of

Grace to the dust of this new age of advaita.

Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan,

Miles

May 13, 2004

RamanaMaharshi, Miles <miles.wright@b...>

wrote:

> om namo bhagavate sri ramanaya

>

> Dear David,

>

> > Thank you for giving me the opportunity to formulate a few of my

own thoughts

> > on this matter.

>

> Thank you very much for this informative post. Although this

computer

> refuses to open .doc files, I was able to read it in its entirety

in the

> post to RamanaMaharshi Group. A reminder of Bhagavan's bhakti is a

> refreshing gust of Grace to the dust of this new age of advaita.

>

> Ever Yours in Sri Bhagavan,

> Miles

-----------------

Dear David

I too am very grateful for this posting. As Sri Nagaraja had earlier

mentioned,

Gur Saakshaat ParaBrahma

Tasmai Sri Gurave Namaha

love,

anu

May 26, 2004

- skiplaurel This morning quietness

is full of inner movement. The birds of thought are

chirping--seeking to be fed by Mother Mind. I think of Warwick at

the coffee shop and Michael busy putting things together in his own

way. This satsang is as busy as a bee. Dragonflies of doubt and

hummingbirds of hope pollinate our inner beings. To gather honey and

nectar is inevitable, as are a few stings along the way.I woke up at

4:30 and couldd not get back to sleep. Bob was awake and we lay

there together for a while before I heard his snores take up again.

The two of us are on the part of the path that is rocky and steep.

Every day we have prayer together and spend lots of time apart as

well. We watch different TV shows and take walks alone. Last night

I saw a bluebird flying right in front of me. I smelled the grass

and honeysuckle. The South is redolent with magnolia now.To call on

the Divine Indifference is tricky for me.

Vicki dearest,

I think that indifference is not the right word.

I cannot speak for God, but we love you, so how could God not love you?

What I love about you as much as anything is your desire for truth-whatever-it-may-be.

You ARE truth, and truth attracts truth.

Francis Lucille once said that if a seeker who is passionate for truth comes to false teacher,

the seeker's passion for truth would force the false teacher to speak truth.

I forgot to mention, in my note to Michael, that it sometimes happens, in the Spanish cafe,

that when I turn inwards to investigate whether it is true, what is

written, I find not the transpanency of pure consciousness; I find

great inner turmoil. Sometimes, when I allow that turmoil to come

into focus, (because I too have a love for truth-whatever-it-may-be)

I find a wave of sadness, or anguish, that swamps all of my

rationality, and I bury my head in my hand and weep. Often I have no

idea of the origin, and I don't care.

Often, if I am reading poetry to the woman I love, my voice crumbles

and my face crumples and my whole body shakes with the upwelling of

something I don't understand. Sadness is good. Sadness, and the

surrender to sadness, provided it is not simply self-pity, is as holy

as the laughter of children.

Vicki, to my ordinary and inexpert eye, it seems like your great

honesty, and your desire to know the truth at any cost, is a gift of

Grace, the guiding light that God has given you to come home to Her.

Very much love

Warwick

I am emotionally passionate and quite obstinate about my desire for

solitude. I fear some things cannot be changed. I love the silence

and fear the social isolation that it brings. Honesty is part of my

spiritual work; to spill the beans to one and all. I am not easy to

live with. That because I am intense and bounded. These boundaries

both protect me and isolate me. The walls will fall; it is just a

matter of time.I ask for the help of the sangha in being strong

enough to handle my life. To take my hands off and let what be, be.

To surrender to the flow of life and let others touch me with their

wisdom and kindness. May this be a blessed day for all who seek to

know the

truth.Vicki****************************************************************

Dearest Vicki,

/join

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is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

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May 26, 2004

, "Warwick Wakefield"

<formandsubstance@t...> wrote:

>

> -

> skiplaurel

>

> This morning quietness is full of inner movement. The birds of thought are

chirping--seeking to be fed by Mother Mind. I think of Warwick at the coffee

shop and Michael busy putting things together in his own way. This satsang is

as busy as a bee. Dragonflies of doubt and hummingbirds of hope pollinate our

inner beings. To gather honey and nectar is inevitable, as are a few stings

along the way.

>

> I woke up at 4:30 and couldd not get back to sleep. Bob was awake and we lay

there together for a while before I heard his snores take up again. The two of

us are on the part of the path that is rocky and steep. Every day we have

prayer together and spend lots of time apart as well. We watch different TV

shows and take walks alone. Last night I saw a bluebird flying right in front

of me. I smelled the grass and honeysuckle. The South is redolent with

magnolia now.

>

> To call on the Divine Indifference is tricky for me.

> Vicki dearest,

>

> I think that indifference is not the right word.

> I cannot speak for God, but we love you, so how could God not love you?

>

> What I love about you as much as anything is your desire for

truth-whatever-it-may-be.

> You ARE truth, and truth attracts truth.

> Francis Lucille once said that if a seeker who is passionate for truth comes

to false teacher,

> the seeker's passion for truth would force the false teacher to speak truth.

>

> I forgot to mention, in my note to Michael, that it sometimes happens, in the

Spanish cafe,

> that when I turn inwards to investigate whether it is true, what is written, I

find not the transpanency of pure consciousness; I find great inner turmoil.

Sometimes, when I allow that turmoil to come into focus, (because I too have a

love for truth-whatever-it-may-be) I find a wave of sadness, or anguish, that

swamps all of my rationality, and I bury my head in my hand and weep. Often I

have no idea of the origin, and I don't care.

>

> Often, if I am reading poetry to the woman I love, my voice crumbles and my

face crumples and my whole body shakes with the upwelling of something I don't

understand. Sadness is good. Sadness, and the surrender to sadness, provided it

is not simply self-pity, is as holy as the laughter of children.

>

> Vicki, to my ordinary and inexpert eye, it seems like your great honesty, and

your desire to know the truth at any cost, is a gift of Grace, the guiding light

that God has given you to come home to Her.

>

> Very much love

>

> Warwick

Dear Warwick,

The Real is always the Real. Sorrow doesn't change it one iota. Your reply has

made quite a difference to my feeling of losing ground in my spiritual journey.

So what if I feel unloved. How can Love be anything but Love. Joel Goldsmith

said that he never "felt" loving, which was totally ironic given what he

accomplished in his lifetime. Apparently, feelings are not what life is

ultimately about.

My path seems to be one of doggedly going on no matter what. The things I have

been through actually devastated me long ago and I am just a burnt-out star in

the galaxy. My light is an illusion.

As each of us sit at our respective tables pondering truth, is it any wonder

that something occasionally catches fire. It isn't us, yet how we enjoy the

warmth.

Much love to you from Graceland,

Vicki

>

May 26, 2004

Vicki wrote

Dear Warwick,The Real is always the Real. Sorrow doesn't change it

one iota. Your reply has made quite a difference to my feeling of

losing ground in my spiritual journey. So what if I feel unloved.

How can Love be anything but Love. Joel Goldsmith said that he never

"felt" loving, which was totally ironic given what he accomplished in

his lifetime. Apparently, feelings are not what life is ultimately

about.My path seems to be one of doggedly going on no matter what.

The things I have been through actually devastated me long ago and I

am just a burnt-out star in the galaxy. My light is an illusion.As

each of us sit at our respective tables pondering truth, is it any

wonder that something occasionally catches fire. It isn't us, yet

how we enjoy the warmth.Much love to you from Graceland,Vicki

And Warwick replies

This, I believe, is one of the last portraits that Rembrandt painted;

it is himself not too long before his death.

Did you know that he wasn't tremendously popular in his day?

He went bankrupt and died in poverty.

But still you can see the tenderness, the great depth.

We feel your depth, Vicki,

and you bring out our tenderness.

much love

Warwick

/join

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is the actual form of God."Sri RamanaIn "Letters from Sri

Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

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Attachment: (image/jpeg) rembrandt self portrait 3.jpg [not stored]

May 26, 2004

, "Warwick Wakefield"

<formandsubstance@t...> wrote:

> Vicki wrote

>

> Dear Warwick,

>

> The Real is always the Real. Sorrow doesn't change it one iota. Your reply

has made quite a difference to my feeling of losing ground in my spiritual

journey. So what if I feel unloved. How can Love be anything but Love. Joel

Goldsmith said that he never "felt" loving, which was totally ironic given what

he accomplished in his lifetime. Apparently, feelings are not what life is

ultimately about.

>

> My path seems to be one of doggedly going on no matter what. The things I

have been through actually devastated me long ago and I am just a burnt-out star

in the galaxy. My light is an illusion.

>

> As each of us sit at our respective tables pondering truth, is it any wonder

that something occasionally catches fire. It isn't us, yet how we enjoy the

warmth.

>

> Much love to you from Graceland,

>

> Vicki

>

> And Warwick replies

>

> This, I believe, is one of the last portraits that Rembrandt painted;

> it is himself not too long before his death.

>

> Did you know that he wasn't tremendously popular in his day?

> He went bankrupt and died in poverty.

>

> But still you can see the tenderness, the great depth.

>

> We feel your depth, Vicki,

> and you bring out our tenderness.

>

> much love

>

> Warwick

>

I am laughing. Your print has the jaundice; I can scarcely make it out. When I

hit reply, it is, thankfully, back in black :-)

Thank you, dear W, for your kind words. Today has been lighter because of you.

I had an unusually happy day...until I spilt an entire glass of iced tea as I

put it on the table. Cussed like a sailor, I did :-)

Love, Vicki

>

/join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

>

> Sponsor

>

Links

>

> /

>

May 27, 2004

Vicky

Dearest Vicky

I am

s i l e n t

I am with you

Y O U A R E L O V E L Y

Y O U A R E STRONG MUCH MORE THAN STRONG

B E

L O V E

I surrender to your love

Michael

-

"skiplaurel" <vicki

<>

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:10 PM

(unknown)

> This morning quietness is full of inner movement. The birds of thought

are chirping--seeking to be fed by Mother Mind. I think of Warwick at the

coffee shop and Michael busy putting things together in his own way. This

satsang is as busy as a bee. Dragonflies of doubt and hummingbirds of hope

pollinate our inner beings. To gather honey and nectar is inevitable, as

are a few stings along the way.

>

> I woke up at 4:30 and couldd not get back to sleep. Bob was awake and we

lay there together for a while before I heard his snores take up again. The

two of us are on the part of the path that is rocky and steep. Every day we

have prayer together and spend lots of time apart as well. We watch

different TV shows and take walks alone. Last night I saw a bluebird flying

right in front of me. I smelled the grass and honeysuckle. The South is

redolent with magnolia now.

>

> To call on the Divine Indifference is tricky for me. I am emotionally

passionate and quite obstinate about my desire for solitude. I fear some

things cannot be changed. I love the silence and fear the social isolation

that it brings. Honesty is part of my spiritual work; to spill the beans to

one and all. I am not easy to live with. That because I am intense and

bounded. These boundaries both protect me and isolate me. The walls will

fall; it is just a matter of time.

>

> I ask for the help of the sangha in being strong enough to handle my life.

To take my hands off and let what be, be. To surrender to the flow of life

and let others touch me with their wisdom and kindness. May this be a

blessed day for all who seek to know the truth.

>

> Vicki

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

May 27, 2004

Dear Tony,

I thank you for the love I feel in your precious answer.

Due to Grace - how else could it be? - the "idea" the inner knowledge that

GOD exists - was burning like a candle in my heart ALWAYS

I hope like you stated that I am on the "last road" what a wonderful

expression

yours in gratitude

Michael

-

"Tony OClery" <aoclery

<>

Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:13 PM

(unknown)

> , "Michael Bindel"

> <michaelbindel@t...> wrote:

> > Dear Harsha

> >

> > sorry for having disturbed with the articles I sent.

> > Due to my personal history (which led to the belief that "i" have

> not even been worth of been murdered by the nazis like so many other

> children...) my "inner signals" are on red alert - concerning whats

> going on in the outside world. You might call it "survival instinct"

> too.

> > On the other hand due to Grace my inner development brought me to

> Ramana whom I love and whose teachings I find true for me too....

> > On the other hand I live with a family and am experiencing very

> very stiff conditions materially speaking.

> > I know its karma I know its good for all of us - but----

> > So I joined your esteemed group hoping to learn how others are

> tackling their obstacles on the road....and what they feel and think

> whats going on "outside"

> > Deep inside I know that I am alone and have to continue this path -

> even accepting that i can do nothing that I am led by GDS love.

> > I try my best to radiate what I call LOVE

> > I hope you understand me...

> >

> > yours in Sri Ramana

> >

> > Michael Bindel

>

> Namaste M,

>

> You don't have to feel guilty about not being killed by the Nazis,

> many others went on to incur bad karma. Your father was very wise in

> not exposing you to that. I notice you don't write the name of God,

> which is a Jewish idea. However in Hindu philosophy one doesn't have

> to hide the name of God. One speaks it extolls it, revels in it

> repeats it on rosary beads etc. So you have had a lot of Grace in

> your life already, and you have been spared the killing and be

> killed etc etc. You are on the last road my friend don't look

> back................ONS..Tony.

>

> /join

>

> "Love itself is the actual form of God."

>

> Sri Ramana

>

> In "Letters from Sri Ramanasramam" by Suri Nagamma

> Links

>

May 28, 2004

Dearest Warwick

Brother on the way

your letter is working.....

And I will answer.....

Have a good good day!

Michael

and next time to drink a coffee drink one for me tooo..

I love coffe and "hanging around" in Cafeterias...

-

Warwick Wakefield

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 2:08 PM