Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 11:16:46 LC wrote: >I also practice Kundalini Yoga but have been greatly drawn to more joyful and ecstatic practices recently. >Not too long ago I heard someone say if your spirituality is not like making love why bother and >that makes great sense to me. What you experienced was a wonderful way for kundalini energy to >move....enjoy. Hi Linda, Harsha and all, Disco dancing does go well together with Kundalini. I think Linda's advice about how to choose spiritual practice was a great tip. I will be back Tues / Wed. Hasta La Vista. Love, Amanda. Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Hi LInda, The thought that someone could be on a path that isn't joyful would never have occurred to me, without you mentioning it... The Sufi path is a path of love and it is said that on a path of love, even pain is sweet Although I agree, not my words but those of a medieval, Western mystic, Hadewijch of Antwerp: http://www.millersv.edu/~english/homepage/duncan/medfem/hadewijc1.html Jan On 4/30/00 at 11:16 AM LC wrote: Hi Harsha/Julie: It certainly appears to be Kundalini movement which, as we know, is different from total liberation (moksha). The experience seemed very Sufi like to me which is personally interesting as I have been playing around with the idea of going to a Sufi center because it is something I've always wanted to do. I also practice Kundalini Yoga but have been greatly drawn to more joyful and ecstatic practices recently. Not too long ago I heard someone say if your spirituality is not like making love why bother and that makes great sense to me. What you experienced was a wonderful way for kundalini energy to move....enjoy. Namaste, Linda Julie Cuddihy wrote: Dear List, I haven't been contributing since joining the list over a year ago, butnow I feel I have something to say. I would welcome any comments. Last Good Friday was spent in Wiltshire (the magical place ofCropcircles!), it was a great day, I was very happy. That evening I went to a club in London. I was with really good friends and my good mood carried through into the evening. As soon as I got there I was dancing - 4 -5 hours laterI am still dancing, I haven't sat down once. All night I have been drinking water, I was very aware of MY bottle and kept the lid on at all times. I didn't drink anyone's drink, or leave my bottle unattended. At about 4.30am, I am starting to feel very happy, very uplifted. I am telling my friends how great I feel and what a wonderful night it was. I am beaming with joy, I feel amazing, incredible euphoria. I am not tired, my body feels strong and energetic, I am surging with power. For a moment I stop and lean against the wall, and then it happens. Ifeel this rush of what I can only explain as pure white energy rush from my ankles to the top of my head. As it goes through my head my hearingbecomes muffled and distorted. My legs after the rush now feel weak. I ampouring with sweat, constantly........ I am now holding onto the wall for support - but I feel amazing. Also I felt that I needed the toilet, I felt that I may loose control of mybodily functions. I then think - oh no someone has spiked my drink, as I have never feltthis feeling before. So I make my excuses and go home, as I want to experience this without being in a crowded club. So I check my pupils in the bathroom mirror, they are dilating,which is a good sign as on drugs they don't respond. Then about 45 minutes later Igat another rush of energy. My body is now trembling and I can't stop. Yet these feeling are pleasurable and I feel happy and calm. Another 45 mins later it happens again. By about 7.00am I fall asleep......... In the morning I wake up, and I check how I feel - headache?, depressed?, tired?, sore spine? None of those I feel great....... Again check in the mirror to see how I look. And I look amazing, my eyesare bright, skin is flushed and basically I look radiant. That morning I meditated for 31 mins, and the same feelings came back - rush after rushof white misty energy. Bear in mind that I am a teacher of Kundalini Yoga,and I practise 4 timesa week, plus I meditate everyday for at least 31 mins. I have been takingthis cropcircle essence, whish was produced in the DNA formation in Avebury1996, which is the same tattoo which i have at the base of my spine. I haven't spoke to any of my teachers about this yet, I would welcome any comments to clarify whether this was a stirring of Kundalini? Warmest Regards, JulieHi Julie,It does seem like stirrings of Kundalini. Practice of yoga, pranayama, andmeditation makes one more prone to the Shakti awakening in a variety of waysincluding the stimulation of optic nerves.Go to the following url. The second link is to the Tantra and Kundalinipaper on Angelique's Kundalini website.It has a pranayama section in it.http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/harsha.htmBy the way, certain mind altering drugs can also trigger kundalini or likeexperiences (not something I recommend). So you were right to be concernedabout whether there was something in your drink or not. What is thiscropcircle essence that you take?Certain physical movements with breath control can trigger Prana currentsif one is already on the verge. This might have happened unconsciouslyduring the disco dancing. If you continue with meditation, the experienceis likely to grow until you start losing body consciousness while sitting orlying down. Lucid dream experiences, celestial visions, or enteringdifferent samadhis are all indications of Kundalini awakening and might comeafter a few months or a few years. Certain life styles might facilitateawakening and rising of the Shakti. You should read up on the importantShakti literature and keep in touch with your teachers and tell them whatyou are experiencing. Hopefully, they can give you good guidance as well.HarshaP.S. We have some experienced people on on Shakti relatedissues. I will post your note there as well. Anyone can join by clickingbelow.// // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Hello Jan: Thank you for this link...I have only checked out poem 20 but Hadewijch is walking through a land that is very familiar to me. ".....but charity cannot dwell in love. Mercy and humility cannot dwell in love, nor can reason or fear, hardship or moderation, or any other thing. But love dwells in them all and gives them all sustenance, though she receives no other food than the wholeness of herself." It feels as if I have spent most of this life on spiritual paths that talked the talk but the talk did not dwell in love. As love dwells in them all grace eventually removed me (with great pain that turned out to be sweet :-) ) on to what I like to refer to as the "pathless path" and there waited the joy of spirit. Linda >The thought that someone could be on a path that isn't joyful would never have >occurred to me, without you mentioning it... The Sufi path is a path of love >and it is said that on a path of love, even pain is sweet Although I agree, not >my words but those of a medieval, Western mystic, Hadewijch of Antwerp: >http://www.millersv.edu/~english/homepage/duncan/medfem/hadewijc1.html Jan On 4/30/00 at 11:16 AM LC wrote: Hi Harsha/Julie: It certainly appears to be Kundalini movement which, as we know, is different from total liberation (moksha). The experience seemed very Sufi like to me which is personally interesting as I have been playing around with the idea of going to a Sufi center because it is something I've always wanted to do. I also practice Kundalini Yoga but have been greatly drawn to more joyful and ecstatic practices recently. Not too long ago I heard someone say if your spirituality is not like making love why bother and that makes great sense to me. What you experienced was a wonderful way for kundalini energy to move....enjoy. Namaste, Linda Julie Cuddihy wrote: Dear List, I haven't been contributing since joining the list over a year ago, butnow I feel I have something to say. I would welcome any comments. Last Good Friday was spent in Wiltshire (the magical place ofCropcircles!), it was a great day, I was very happy. That evening I went to a club in London. I was with really good friends and my good mood carried through into the evening. As soon as I got there I was dancing - 4 -5 hours laterI am still dancing, I haven't sat down once. All night I have been drinking water, I was very aware of MY bottle and kept the lid on at all times. I didn't drink anyone's drink, or leave my bottle unattended. At about 4.30am, I am starting to feel very happy, very uplifted. I am telling my friends how great I feel and what a wonderful night it was. I am beaming with joy, I feel amazing, incredible euphoria. I am not tired, my body feels strong and energetic, I am surging with power. For a moment I stop and lean against the wall, and then it happens. Ifeel this rush of what I can only explain as pure white energy rush from my ankles to the top of my head. As it goes through my head my hearingbecomes muffled and distorted. My legs after the rush now feel weak. I ampouring with sweat, constantly........ I am now holding onto the wall for support - but I feel amazing. Also I felt that I needed the toilet, I felt that I may loose control of mybodily functions. I then think - oh no someone has spiked my drink, as I have never feltthis feeling before. So I make my excuses and go home, as I want to experience this without being in a crowded club. So I check my pupils in the bathroom mirror, they are dilating,which is a good sign as on drugs they don't respond. Then about 45 minutes later Igat another rush of energy. My body is now trembling and I can't stop. Yet these feeling are pleasurable and I feel happy and calm. Another 45 mins later it happens again. By about 7.00am I fall asleep......... In the morning I wake up, and I check how I feel - headache?, depressed?, tired?, sore spine? None of those I feel great....... Again check in the mirror to see how I look. And I look amazing, my eyesare bright, skin is flushed and basically I look radiant. That morning I meditated for 31 mins, and the same feelings came back - rush after rushof white misty energy. Bear in mind that I am a teacher of Kundalini Yoga,and I practise 4 timesa week, plus I meditate everyday for at least 31 mins. I have been takingthis cropcircle essence, whish was produced in the DNA formation in Avebury1996, which is the same tattoo which i have at the base of my spine. I haven't spoke to any of my teachers about this yet, I would welcome any comments to clarify whether this was a stirring of Kundalini? Warmest Regards, JulieHi Julie,It does seem like stirrings of Kundalini. Practice of yoga, pranayama, andmeditation makes one more prone to the Shakti awakening in a variety of waysincluding the stimulation of optic nerves.Go to the following url. The second link is to the Tantra and Kundalinipaper on Angelique's Kundalini website.It has a pranayama section in it.http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/umbada/harsha.htmBy the way, certain mind altering drugs can also trigger kundalini or likeexperiences (not something I recommend). So you were right to be concernedabout whether there was something in your drink or not. What is thiscropcircle essence that you take?Certain physical movements with breath control can trigger Prana currentsif one is already on the verge. This might have happened unconsciouslyduring the disco dancing. If you continue with meditation, the experienceis likely to grow until you start losing body consciousness while sitting orlying down. Lucid dream experiences, celestial visions, or enteringdifferent samadhis are all indications of Kundalini awakening and might comeafter a few months or a few years. Certain life styles might facilitateawakening and rising of the Shakti. You should read up on the importantShakti literature and keep in touch with your teachers and tell them whatyou are experiencing. Hopefully, they can give you good guidance as well.HarshaP.S. We have some experienced people on on Shakti relatedissues. I will post your note there as well. Anyone can join by clickingbelow.// // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. // All paths go somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions, and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self. Welcome all to a.To from this list, go to the ONElist web site, at www., and select the User Center link from the menu bar on the left. This menu will also let you change your subscription between digest and normal mode. 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Guest guest Posted May 1, 2000 Report Share Posted May 1, 2000 Hi Linda, Harsha and all, Disco dancing does go well together with Kundalini. I think Linda's advice about how to choose spiritual practice was a great tip. I will be back Tues / Wed. Hasta La Vista. Love, Amanda. Thanks Amanda, Linda, Jan, and others with insight on dancing and Kundalini. Welcome to the new members. Love you all Harsha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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