Realization (reformatted)

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I'm re-submitting this, re-formatted. The following appeared

on M.'s Bhairava list:

--Jerry Katz

 

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Question: Of what nature is the realization of westerners

who relate that they have had flashes of cosmic

consciousness?

 

Bhagavan: It came as a flash and disappeared as such. That

which has a beginning must also end. Only when the

ever-present consciousness is realized will it be

permanent. Consciousness is indeed always with us. Everyone

knows "I am." No one can deny his own being. The man in

deep sleep is not aware; while awake he seems to be aware.

But it is the same person. There is no change in the one

who slept and the one who is now awake. In deep sleep he

was not aware of his body and so there was no

body-consciousness. In the wakeful state he is aware of his

body and so there is body-consciousness. Therefore the

difference lies in the emergence of body-consciousness and

not in any change in the real consciousness.

 

There is no one who does not say "I am." The wrong

knowledge of "I am the body" is the cause of all the

mischief. This wrong knowledge must go. That is

realization. Realization is not acquisition of anything new

nor is it a new faculty. It is only removal of all

camouflage.

 

The ultimate truth is so simple. It is nothing more than

being in the pristine state. This is all that need be said.

 

-- From the chapter, "Self-Awareness and Self-Ignorance,"

contained in the book "Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri

Ramana Maharshi," edited by David Godman.

 

 

--

We are the Nonduality Generation.

http://www.nonduality.com

[Guest guest]

Hello Jerry:

One can never get enough of "Be As You Are". If I were to be suddenly

told I could have only 1 book for the rest of my life "Be As You Are"

would be it.

Linda

>I'm re-submitting this, re-formatted. The <following appeared>on

M.'s Bhairava list:--Jerry

Katz-----------------Question: Of

what nature is the realization of westerners who relate that they

have had flashes of cosmic consciousness? Bhagavan: It came as a

flash and disappeared as such. That which has a beginning must also

end. Only when the ever-present consciousness is realized will it be

permanent. Consciousness is indeed always with us. Everyone knows "I

am." No one can deny his own being. The man in deep sleep is not

aware; while awake he seems to be aware. But it is the same person.

There is no change in the one who slept and the one who is now awake.

In deep sleep he was not aware of his body and so there was no

body-consciousness. In the wakeful state he is aware of his body and

so there is body-consciousness. Therefore the difference lies in the

emergence of body-consciousness and not in any change in the real

consciousness. There is no one who does not say "I am." The wrong

knowledge of "I am the body" is the cause of all the mischief. This

wrong knowledge must go. That is realization. Realization is not

acquisition of anything new nor is it a new faculty. It is only

removal of all camouflage. The ultimate truth is so simple. It is

nothing more than being in the pristine state. This is all that need

be said. -- From the chapter, "Self-Awareness and Self-Ignorance,"

contained in the book "Be As You Are: The Teachings of Sri Ramana

Maharshi," edited by David Godman. -- We are the Nonduality

Generation.http://www.nonduality.com

// All paths go

somewhere. No path goes nowhere. Paths, places, sights, perceptions,

and indeed all experiences arise from and exist in and subside back

into the Space of Awareness. Like waves rising are not different than

the ocean, all things arising from Awareness are of the nature of

Awareness. Awareness does not come and go but is always Present. It

is Home. Home is where the Heart Is. Jnanis know the Heart to be the

Finality of Eternal Being. A true devotee relishes in the Truth of

Self-Knowledge, spontaneously arising from within into It Self.

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